file Bleed reductions and succesful bleed effects

08 Dec 2023 04:31 #110025 by Viper
Hi,

I am wondering if bleed reductions can be played after "would be succesful" bleed effects trigger (Dis Pater, Spying Mission).

The answer may seem obvious, but I'd rather get clarification on this.

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Put this card in play. Once each action, if a Giovanni you control is about to successfully bleed your prey, you can remove seven cards in your ash heap from the game to give that action +1 bleed.

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08 Dec 2023 06:30 #110026 by Ankha

Hi,

I am wondering if bleed reductions can be played after "would be succesful" bleed effects trigger (Dis Pater, Spying Mission).

The answer may seem obvious, but I'd rather get clarification on this.

Dis Pater
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Put this card in play. Once each action, if a Giovanni you control is about to successfully bleed your prey, you can remove seven cards in your ash heap from the game to give that action +1 bleed.

No, otherwise it wouldn't be successful.

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08 Dec 2023 12:40 #110030 by Lönkka
A reduction doesn't necessarily reduce the whole bleed (into oblivion)...

Example: Govern + Conditioning + WHATEVER vs Telepathtic Counter

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10 Dec 2023 08:27 #110043 by Ankha

A reduction doesn't necessarily reduce the whole bleed (into oblivion)...

Example: Govern + Conditioning + WHATEVER vs Telepathtic Counter

Sure, but it was to point out it is too late. "Is about to" is the last stage before resolving the effect and the condition cannot be altered by other effects (you must play those effects before).

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