Requirements for a Chained "Do X to do Y to do Z"
07 Mar 2025 08:29 #113890
by Artemis
Requirements for a Chained "Do X to do Y to do Z" was created by Artemis
Making a forum post per Ankha's request.
Victim of Habit
Extrapolating from this, to start the chain you need to be able to do X (lock), but Z(pool loss) only happens if Y (all 3 cards) was completed in full.
I guess the question is whether or not this should be overruled such that both X and Y need to be completable on announcement before starting the chain?
Victim of Habit
has a ruling [LSJ 20050408-2] whereinCard Text
+1 stealth action.
Put this card in play and choose a card in your prey's ash heap by name. During any Methuselah's unlock phase, you may lock this card to remove three copies of the chosen card in your prey's ash heap from the game to cause your prey to burn 1 pool.
> Is tapping Victim of Habit to remove only 2 cards possible because the
> removing of three cards is an effect itself (of tapping the VoH), in
> addition to being a cost (for burning 1 pool)?
Yes.
If it were just "remove three to cause pool loss", then you couldn't
do it without three.
Extrapolating from this, to start the chain you need to be able to do X (lock), but Z(pool loss) only happens if Y (all 3 cards) was completed in full.
I guess the question is whether or not this should be overruled such that both X and Y need to be completable on announcement before starting the chain?
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08 Mar 2025 00:25 - 08 Mar 2025 00:26 #113895
by TryDeflectingThisGrapple
Replied by TryDeflectingThisGrapple on topic Requirements for a Chained "Do X to do Y to do Z"
Not a rulesmonger, but chiming in anyway....
Not sure how many other chained effects like this exist in single-sentence format. But this one seems easy to address if you have stomach for a small erratum.
"During any Methuselah's unlock phase, you may lock this cardto AND remove three copies of the chosen card in your prey's ash heap from the game to cause your prey to burn 1 pool."
Not sure how many other chained effects like this exist in single-sentence format. But this one seems easy to address if you have stomach for a small erratum.
"During any Methuselah's unlock phase, you may lock this card
Last edit: 08 Mar 2025 00:26 by TryDeflectingThisGrapple. Reason: Formatting
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