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16 Nov 2025 01:18 - 16 Nov 2025 01:23 #115779 by Oracle.kid

Action Fizzle with controller change during action was created by Oracle.kid

Durga Syn wants to burn Stolen Police Cruiser which is on my prey's vampire. The action is blocked, combat ensues. Durga Syn uses their ability to steal the equipment and presses for another round of combat. During the second round, she plays Mirror Image to continue the action as if unblocked.

Will the action

fizzle, because the controller of Stolen Police Cruiser has changed during the action and the target methuselah has no Stolen Police Cruiser anymore.
continue, and burn the Stolen Police Cruiser, because the action provided by the card does not mention the card's controller

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Last edit: 16 Nov 2025 01:23 by Oracle.kid.

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16 Nov 2025 10:18 #115781 by Bloodartist

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Stolen police cruisers ability doesn't specify that it must be an opponent who burns it. It just says "vampires can burn this card.." Therefore I would interpret that changing the controller doesn't matter. The action continues and the cruiser is burned.

This is kind of like burning your own smiling jack because its inconvenient.

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16 Nov 2025 10:54 - 16 Nov 2025 11:10 #115782 by Oracle.kid

Replied by Oracle.kid on topic Action Fizzle with controller change during action

We had the same discussion yesterday, I'm not as convinced though. The main reason is that the action changes its properties during resolution, denying eligible blockers their option to block (directed to undirected).

Also there is a ruling that D-actions are always directed at the controller as well as the card itself. From that perspective, the action directed at my prey to burn Stolen Police Cruiser cannot resolve anymore and should fizzle.

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16 Nov 2025 11:43 #115783 by Ankha

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Bloodartist wrote:
Stolen police cruisers ability doesn't specify that it must be an opponent who burns it. It just says "vampires can burn this card.." Therefore I would interpret that changing the controller doesn't matter. The action continues and the cruiser is burned.

This is kind of like burning your own smiling jack because its inconvenient.

Correct. It becomes undirected when it continues.

See groups.google.com/g/rec.games.trading-cards.jyhad/c/VQqyTY-nVFk/m/sNbrwFy_zJoJ

Oracle.kid wrote:
We had the same discussion yesterday, I'm not as convinced though. The main reason is that the action changes its properties during resolution, denying eligible blockers their option to block (directed to undirected).

It continues as an undirected action. Minions controlled by the prey and predator can try to block.

Oracle.kid wrote:
Also there is a ruling that D-actions are always directed at the controller as well as the card itself. From that perspective, the action directed at my prey to burn Stolen Police Cruiser cannot resolve anymore and should fizzle.

It changes from directed (against the card and the controller) to undirected.

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