file Forward momentum and failed/canceled actions

27 Jan 2026 10:49 #116276 by Oshi
"Forward Momentum
Unique.
Put this card in play. After a vampire who follows the Path of Cathari you control bleeds, if the bleed is successful (for 1 or more), add 1 counter to this card; otherwise, burn 1 counter from this card. After a vampire who follows the Path of Cathari you control performs an action, you can burn 2 counters from this card to unlock them."

At which point does "After a vampire who follows the Path of Cathari you control bleeds" trigger?

Is it at the point a bleed action is announced? Or after the bleed action is successful? Or somewhere in between?

For clarities sake which if the following would cause forward momentum to lose a counter:
  • bleed reduced to 0
  • bleed is blocked
  • action ends to change of target
  • bleed action card is cancelled by DI
  • bleed action is cancelled by tangle atropos' hand

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27 Jan 2026 14:08 #116280 by Ankha

"Forward Momentum
Unique.
Put this card in play. After a vampire who follows the Path of Cathari you control bleeds, if the bleed is successful (for 1 or more), add 1 counter to this card; otherwise, burn 1 counter from this card. After a vampire who follows the Path of Cathari you control performs an action, you can burn 2 counters from this card to unlock them."

At which point does "After a vampire who follows the Path of Cathari you control bleeds" trigger?

After resolution of the action.

For clarities sake which if the following would cause forward momentum to lose a counter:
  1. bleed reduced to 0
  2. bleed is blocked
  3. action ends to change of target
  4. bleed action card is cancelled by DI
  5. bleed action is cancelled by tangle atropos' hand


1. burn (the bleed was not succesful)
2. burn (the bleed action was not succesful)
3. burn (idem)
4. Don’t burn (the action didn't reach resolution)
5. Don't burn (idem)

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