file Playing Fall of Sabbat-Paths

29 Jan 2026 12:11 #116296 by Xto316
If a player plays Fall of the Sabbat:
a) Can I play Black Hand cards?
b) Can a non-Sabbat vampire play Path cards (Cathari, Caine, etc.) if they are affected by Fall of the Sabbat?
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29 Jan 2026 20:31 #116301 by Kilrauko

If a player plays Fall of the Sabbat:
a) Can I play Black Hand cards?
b) Can a non-Sabbat vampire play Path cards (Cathari, Caine, etc.) if they are affected by Fall of the Sabbat?


Short:

a) Yes.
b) No.

Long;

a) Black Hand is not tied to being a sabbat vampire, see www.vekn.net/rulebook

TRAITS

Traits are attributes minions can have that interact with other game effects. These traits may allow minions to play certain cards that require a specific trait or be affected by certain in game effects.

Black Hand: This trait allows a minion to play or use cards requiring Black Hand minions.

Note how nowhere it is stated that being sabbat vampire is requirement for black hand, in fact non-titled black hand vampires are free to go anarch.

Become Anarch

◼ Who can become Anarch: Any ready untitled non-Anarch vampire.

◼ Cost: 2 blood, or 1 blood if the controller controls at least 1 other ready Anarch.

◼ Default target: None. Undirected action.

◼ Default stealth: +1 stealth.

◼ Effect: If the action is successful, the acting vampire is now of the Anarch sect.


2) Sabbat paths listed are tied to the sect, see www.vekn.net/rulebook

aths of Enlightenment: Only Sabbat vampires can follow one of the four Paths of Enlightenment ("Path" for short):

Path of Caine
Path of Cathari
Path of Death and the Soul
Path of Power and the Inner Voice

A vampire can only follow one Path. If a vampire follows a new Path, they no longer follow their old Path but follow the new Path instead. A vampire must be Sabbat to receive the benefits of the above Paths. If a Sabbat vampire following a Sabbat Path changes their sect, they lose the benefit of the Path until they change their sect back to Sabbat. ...


Due to Fall of Sabbat all sabbat vampires are considered to be independent, hence they do not fulfill the requirement of "must be sabbat to receive the benefits" part.
Name: Fall of the Sabbat
[Gehenna:R, EoG:1]
Cardtype: Event
Gehenna. Requires 3 or more other Gehenna events in play. Not usable if a ready vampire is Black Hand. Do not replace as long as this card is in play.
There is no Sabbat. Instead, Sabbat vampires are considered Independent.
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