Psyche and Telepathic Tracking - the sequel
18 Mar 2026 06:51 - 18 Mar 2026 06:55 #116701
by Ankha
? Psyche is still played "when combat is about to end".
Since it replaces X with Y, a) it is played before X "is about to" happen and b) X never happens.
That's why Telepathic Tracking (replacement effect) is played before Psyche! and prevents Psyche! from being played.
Replied by Ankha on topic Psyche and Telepathic Tracking - the sequel
With the new wording on Psyche, does the current ruling that "would end" (TT) comes before "is about to end" still stand?
? Psyche is still played "when combat is about to end".
"if X would happen, Y happens instead" is a replacement effect.I am looking at the clarification of Freak Drive vs Cat's Guidance vs continue action, where they are all within the same window and as card effects change game state, certain cards become playable/unplayable by card text
Would that same logic extend to the "end of round" combat step?
i.e. "would end" and "is about to end" are both in the "end of round" step and playing TT would preclude Psyche but playing Psyche would not preclude TT?
Since it replaces X with Y, a) it is played before X "is about to" happen and b) X never happens.
That's why Telepathic Tracking (replacement effect) is played before Psyche! and prevents Psyche! from being played.
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20 Mar 2026 04:45 #116714
by Bloodartist
Am I the only person who thinks that trying to separate "about to end" from "would end" as individual timing steps is completely idiotic? And all the other myriad sentence structures that are part of natural speech but are supposed to be used for defining ruling purposes? Meanwhile the game is translated to languages other than english? Idiotic.
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Replied by Bloodartist on topic Psyche and Telepathic Tracking - the sequel
Am I the only person who thinks that trying to separate "about to end" from "would end" as individual timing steps is completely idiotic? And all the other myriad sentence structures that are part of natural speech but are supposed to be used for defining ruling purposes? Meanwhile the game is translated to languages other than english? Idiotic.
Smoking craters tell no tales.
—Tex talks Battletech
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20 Mar 2026 08:43 #116717
by Ankha
The game uses a lot of replacement effects.
The game uses a lot of trigger effects.
The former must have precedence over the latter, otherwise it just doesn't work.
An option would be to change Psyche! or TT so they both use replacement effects, but that's not how the cards were designed.
Replied by Ankha on topic Psyche and Telepathic Tracking - the sequel
No, as it would break a lot of things.I understand but taking into consideration that most players are unlikely to spot the implications of "would" vs "is about to", would you consider changing the ruling so that they are both played in the same window (and have game state dictate the situation) rather than having them effectively in 2 separate micro-windows?
The game uses a lot of replacement effects.
The game uses a lot of trigger effects.
The former must have precedence over the latter, otherwise it just doesn't work.
An option would be to change Psyche! or TT so they both use replacement effects, but that's not how the cards were designed.
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