Psyche and Telepathic Tracking - the sequel
18 Mar 2026 01:26 - 18 Mar 2026 01:27 #116697
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With the new wording on Psyche, does the current ruling that "would end" (TT) comes before "is about to end" still stand?
ref: www.vekn.net/forum/rules-questions/76990-correct-order-impulse-for-combat-cards-after-combat?start=0#90516 specifically the bit at the end, both the unstruck and sturck out bits
I am looking at the clarification of Freak Drive vs Cat's Guidance vs continue action, where they are all within the same window and as card effects change game state, certain cards become playable/unplayable by card text
Would that same logic extend to the "end of round" combat step?
i.e. "would end" and "is about to end" are both in the "end of round" step and playing TT would preclude Psyche but playing Psyche would not preclude TT?
ref: Discord discussion on Psyche vs Telepathic Tracking (discord.com/channels/887471681277399091/1437495305317912748 and discord.com/channels/887471681277399091/1483606840506843166)
ref: www.vekn.net/forum/rules-questions/76990-correct-order-impulse-for-combat-cards-after-combat?start=0#90516 specifically the bit at the end, both the unstruck and sturck out bits
I am looking at the clarification of Freak Drive vs Cat's Guidance vs continue action, where they are all within the same window and as card effects change game state, certain cards become playable/unplayable by card text
Would that same logic extend to the "end of round" combat step?
i.e. "would end" and "is about to end" are both in the "end of round" step and playing TT would preclude Psyche but playing Psyche would not preclude TT?
ref: Discord discussion on Psyche vs Telepathic Tracking (discord.com/channels/887471681277399091/1437495305317912748 and discord.com/channels/887471681277399091/1483606840506843166)
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Last edit: 18 Mar 2026 01:27 by the1andonlime.
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18 Mar 2026 06:51 - 18 Mar 2026 06:55 #116701
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? Psyche is still played "when combat is about to end".
Since it replaces X with Y, a) it is played before X "is about to" happen and b) X never happens.
That's why Telepathic Tracking (replacement effect) is played before Psyche! and prevents Psyche! from being played.
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With the new wording on Psyche, does the current ruling that "would end" (TT) comes before "is about to end" still stand?
? Psyche is still played "when combat is about to end".
"if X would happen, Y happens instead" is a replacement effect.I am looking at the clarification of Freak Drive vs Cat's Guidance vs continue action, where they are all within the same window and as card effects change game state, certain cards become playable/unplayable by card text
Would that same logic extend to the "end of round" combat step?
i.e. "would end" and "is about to end" are both in the "end of round" step and playing TT would preclude Psyche but playing Psyche would not preclude TT?
Since it replaces X with Y, a) it is played before X "is about to" happen and b) X never happens.
That's why Telepathic Tracking (replacement effect) is played before Psyche! and prevents Psyche! from being played.
Last edit: 18 Mar 2026 06:55 by Ankha.
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18 Mar 2026 09:21 #116702
by the1andonlime
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I understand but taking into consideration that most players are unlikely to spot the implications of "would" vs "is about to", would you consider changing the ruling so that they are both played in the same window (and have game state dictate the situation) rather than having them effectively in 2 separate micro-windows?
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