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03 Jul 2026 18:19 #117315 by Ankha
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Even more complicated.

If you control the advanced version and merge it with the basic one, the resulting vampire will be Sabbat.

No, his sect his "Independent" when merged.

If you control the basic version and merge it with the advance one, the resulting vampire will be independent.

Correct.
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03 Jul 2026 21:26 - 03 Jul 2026 21:34 #117316 by meneran
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Just to be sure that I understand this correctly (sorry for asking basically the same question second time, I just feel that there is some kind of misunderstanding) :

ADV Tariq (Sabbat) merges -> resulting Tariq is Independent because of the card text ( = his sect changes)

ADV Tariq (Sabbat) changes sect (to Anarch), then merges -> resulting Tariq is Anarch, because of this ruling ( = his sect does not change)
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04 Jul 2026 17:10 - 04 Jul 2026 17:10 #117329 by KoRneeshon
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The priority is merged text > advanced version text > basic version text, and at each of these "stages", sect / clan can also be changed.
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05 Jul 2026 14:24 #117332 by Ankha
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Just to be sure that I understand this correctly (sorry for asking basically the same question second time, I just feel that there is some kind of misunderstanding) :

ADV Tariq (Sabbat) merges -> resulting Tariq is Independent because of the card text ( = his sect changes)

ADV Tariq (Sabbat) changes sect (to Anarch), then merges -> resulting Tariq is Anarch, because of this ruling ( = his sect does not change)

Sorry, I read the OP question the other way.

Let's sum it up here:

Tariq base (Independent) merges with Tariq adv: Tariq stays Independent (merged sect)
Tariq adv (Sabbat) merges with Tariq base: Tariq becomes Independent (merged sect)

If Tariq base changes sect before merging, he keeps his sect.
If Tariq adv changes sect before merging, he becomes Independent.
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06 Jul 2026 05:47 #117335 by KoRneeshon
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"If Tariq base changes sect before merging, he keeps his sect."

So merging doesn't "overwrite" sect if even it happens *after* Tariq changed his sect?

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06 Jul 2026 08:49 #117336 by meneran
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"If Tariq base changes sect before merging, he keeps his sect."

So merging doesn't "overwrite" sect if even it happens *after* Tariq changed his sect?


To know if merging will cause sect to change, you just look at the starting card (not the vampire in play) and look at the sect of the merged 'card' (again, not the resulting vampire in play).
If those two sects are the same, then process of merging never changes sect, it just keeps the starting sect. If those two sects are different, then merging will reset sect to the "merged" version.

To rephrase what Ankha has said:

When you start with Tariq basic, merging will never change his sect.
When you start with Tariq ADV, merging will always try to change his sect to Independent.
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