About deals and withdrawing
28 Jan 2013 08:59 #44521
by Pendargon
no, i do not keep talking to you.
I responded to you when you clearly tried to divert topic instead of saying " i was outta line, i am sorry"
but no, that would not be you, now would it, mister I-am-always-right-and-everyone-else-is-always-wrong-and-i-get-to-insult-everyone. Many, MANY posters here tried to reason and talk nicely to you over the course of existance of this forums, and tried to divert your attention that your language and attitude is disgusting and deplorable. Yet you continue to plod along, not paying heed to anybody but your own selfish keyboard wanking.
So, it is my deepest belief that ONLY by explaining it to you on the most basic level would get to your head. And it appears i am succeeding in it.
Replied by Pendargon on topic Re: About deals and withdrawing
And yet you keep talking to me.I just about had it with...
And yet, I have never threatened anyone with violence, as you just did. In fact, I've never heard of such a threat of violence in VTES, online or in-person, ever.If you made that remark to me live you would be sucking on a soup with a straw, and trying to wank off with your feet for a couple of weeks.
Let's all remember that, shall we? If you call players who go cross-table for revenge from a previous game "fucking idiots" then Pendargon will threaten you with physical violence.
No matter how much you dislike someone, their attitude, or their philosophy, there's no reason to threaten them with physical violence.
no, i do not keep talking to you.
I responded to you when you clearly tried to divert topic instead of saying " i was outta line, i am sorry"
but no, that would not be you, now would it, mister I-am-always-right-and-everyone-else-is-always-wrong-and-i-get-to-insult-everyone. Many, MANY posters here tried to reason and talk nicely to you over the course of existance of this forums, and tried to divert your attention that your language and attitude is disgusting and deplorable. Yet you continue to plod along, not paying heed to anybody but your own selfish keyboard wanking.
So, it is my deepest belief that ONLY by explaining it to you on the most basic level would get to your head. And it appears i am succeeding in it.
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28 Jan 2013 14:18 - 28 Jan 2013 14:19 #44542
by Ankha
- getting killed by B trying (with little chance of success) to oust E. If E is weakened in the process, D is actually "king-making" player B
- agreeing with E to resist to B in exchange of a VP. D is actually "king-making" player E, but gets a VP in the process.
D is lost anyway, so any of his actions is helping either of the two winning players. D could also deal with B, but it's much harder since B must have a deck capable of back-ousting.
D on the other must try to oust E, unless it's not possible (that's why I stated that preparing the duel is important).
Replied by Ankha on topic Re: About deals and withdrawing
D has two options:
Suppose D and E have a deal where D spends his resources resisting to B while E ousts B.
Once in duel, D and E's deal is void. But D still has no reasonable change of ousting E (perhaps even less since E got 6 pool).
E has 2 vp. By withdrawing or letting D withdraw, or reaching the time limit, E has the GW.[/b]
What kind of deal is that? D would do that anyway, right?
- getting killed by B trying (with little chance of success) to oust E. If E is weakened in the process, D is actually "king-making" player B
- agreeing with E to resist to B in exchange of a VP. D is actually "king-making" player E, but gets a VP in the process.
D is lost anyway, so any of his actions is helping either of the two winning players. D could also deal with B, but it's much harder since B must have a deck capable of back-ousting.
Because of the previous agreement. Even though all deals are void, since E has the GW he can choose to leave D 1 VP.
Option 1
E can torporize/paralyze all of D's minion
That case is simple. Once D has no minion left, he can't stop E from withdrawing. E scores GW 2.5, D scores 1 VP
E would score 4 VP if just ousted D, so why do anything else?
D on the other must try to oust E, unless it's not possible (that's why I stated that preparing the duel is important).
Same as above.Option 2
E would score 4 VP if just ousted D, so why do anything else?
Option 3
E would score 4 VP if just ousted D, so why do anything else?
Because it's the same for him, and he may give the remaning VP to D as long as he has the GW (but this can be a little risky).
You haven't said why E is withdrawing, but O.K.Option 4
D "kingmakes" B or E anyway, so it's better for him to get a VP in the process.
Duels can and should be prepared while there's still a third player on the table and while the deals are still legal.
I am sensing the gist of this to justify, D kingmaking E over B.
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