Let's Talk Rapid Thought!

KevinM wrote:

How could three players in RT obtain 1vp-0vp-0.5vp? As you have 0.5vp there, you are obviously suggesting a timeout, but you cannot have a timeout without two players left at the table, since if you had only the one, you'd have another VP by definition. 1vp-0vp-0.5vp appears to be an impossible result.

floppyzedolfin wrote:

You gotta consider Life Boon and withdraw

An excellent point, and one that I hadn't thought of. Thank you for bringing it to my attention.

floppyzedolfin wrote:

Player C is ousted. Player A plays Life Boon on Player C.

Ok, still A=0vp, B=0, C=0.

floppyzedolfin wrote:

Player C then withdraws.

Ok, so A=0, B=0, C=0.5 since C didn't earn a VP to be given via Life Boon to player A.

floppyzedolfin wrote:

Then, have the game time out. 1-0.5-0.

But then A=0.5, B=0.5, C=0.5 ?

Pascal,
It appears from this message groups.google.com/group/rec.games.trading-cards.jyhad/msg/566a13ddd4347ed1 that since the Life Boon'ed withdraw'ing Methuselah is no longer in the game, their 0.5vp for withdrawing cannot be awarded to their Life Boon'er. Maybe we should ask LSJ?

I gave some quick examples of possible results with Life Boon / Withdraws above.

I think that, in that example, B plays Life Boon on A, and then B is ousted, thus removing B's Life Boon from the game. It's not the same case as when A plays Life Boon on B, and then B withdraws (the Life Boon A controls is then triggered)

KevinM wrote:

floppyzedolfin wrote:

Player C is ousted. Player A plays Life Boon on Player C.

Ok, still A=0vp, B=0, C=0.

floppyzedolfin wrote:

Player C then withdraws.

Ok, so A=0, B=0, C=0.5 since C didn't earn a VP to be given via Life Boon to player A.

Life Boon awards half-VPs when half-VPs are awarded (until a full 1VP is awarded) : [RTR 19991206]
So it's A=0.5, B=0, C=0.

KevinM wrote:

floppyzedolfin wrote:

Then, have the game time out. 1-0.5-0.

But then A=0.5, B=0.5, C=0.5 ?

With the correction above, it's 1, 0.5, 0.

So jumping in 10 minutes late...

Rapid Thought is a great tournament format. I ran a fantastic event at Origins a couple years back with, like, 20+ people, where we did 2 preliminary rounds and a final in less than 3 hours. Very few games timed out with the 45 minute rounds.

Rapid Thought uses, by design, 3 player games. As it means that everyone is directly interacting with everyone else and when someone is ousted, the game rapidly accelerates towards an end as opposed to plateauing and rebalancing. Which happens a lot in 5 player games. It also means that you can build your deck specifically knowing there will be exactly 3 players in each game, as opposed to maybe 4, maybe 5 (like in regular games). Having 3 players also means that everything will go a lot faster every time.

I'm not convinced, still, that there need to be different deck construction rules for this format (at some point, Kevin was using a "you only need 6 vampires in your crypt" rule. I mean, it is helpful if you want to use it, but it also is a stumbling block for folks to jump in on the fly.

bakija wrote:

So jumping in 10 minutes late...

Rapid Thought is a great tournament format. I ran a fantastic event at Origins a couple years back with, like, 20+ people, where we did 2 preliminary rounds and a final in less than 3 hours. Very few games timed out with the 45 minute rounds.

Did you use game wins? Which definition did you use?