Crypt card redesign

Lech wrote:

jamesatzephyr wrote:

elotar wrote:

Flavour text is not an unnesesary information, it's the way to make boring cards (like most vampires without abilities) into something interesting.

I'd really, really, really rather not have flavour text on 'empty' vampires. Borrowing quotes from (out of copyright) published works is a pain in the ass, and coming up with something interesting, unique or witty for each empty vampire to say is just going to get dull. In particular, there are a lot of empty vampires who are small-medium and generally won't be interesting vampires in the grand scheme of things - not big enough to have a fun special ability, but not hamstrung with a disability. Just some 3 cap with 2 disciplines, or whatever. That's going to get nauseatingly dull, fast.

Things is, the vampires who might have interesting flavour text potential are pretty much going to be the ones who already have very full text boxes. Arika? Anson? Count Germaine? Xipe Totec? Cyble? Enkidu? Saulot? I'd probably be interesting in reading some flavour text relating to them - but their textboxes are usually pretty full.

+1

To be fair out of interesting vampires that have no special abilities are:
-Black Wallace (6 cap)
-Lord Vauxhall (7 cap)
-Don Cerro (7 cap)

So, because interesting vampire can't have flavortext, none shall have it ?
What kind of argument is that ?

Besides, there's no need, for long quote. Look at what was done on Android : Netrunner .
Few words are all it takes to give some card a little more interest.

And even if you don't like flavortext, it's not like we are removing anything from the card to put them...

Ankha wrote:

1/ If there isn't any cardtext and only flavor text, players are misguided in thinking the vampire has some special text.

It's a lie. If you are using different italized font for FT nobody will confuse it with rules text.

Ke. wrote:

The artwork in your example is landscape — hence the large amount of spare space.

www.vekn.net/forum/generic-v-tes-discussion/75121-crypt-card-redesign?start=96

Ke. wrote:

I much rather have more space for artwork than a large block of confusing noisy random text.

You are not making cards for yourself. There are large number of people who think otherwise and is just plain wrong to ignore them when in costs you nothing (you got empty text box).

elotar wrote:

If the card is not interesting than it's a bad card.

A card can be interesting from the point of a Methuselah building a deck, without the underlying vampire having anything remotely notable, interesting or unique about the vampire's personality.

elotar wrote:

Flavour text is essential on some random 3-cap dork, not so much on something like Morel.

If flavour text is essential on vampires, could you explain how V:TES has managed to survive 20 years without it? I do not think "essential" means what you think it means.

elotar wrote:

You obviously don't use quotes from random books and you don't need something "witty".

I would note that I said: " something interesting, unique or witty". Something could be interesting, but not witty. It could be unique, but not witty.

elotar wrote:

Take mtg cards as an example - in some sets they use it too tell the story (combining all cards), in some - to introduce the setting, in some - to add theme.

And it's about as deep and satisfying as trying to write a story on Twitter. My experience of such card text is that, by and large, it's dreadful doggerel, devoid of merit.

elotar wrote:

Each vampire is unique personality.

I think you mean "I want each vampire to be a unique personality", which is a very different thing.

I would much rather the Design Team created vampires that filled play needs, rather than having to worry about whether this Ventrue antitribu is distinct in personality, motivation, goals, and background from this other Ventrue antitribu that already exists.

elotar wrote:

Ke. wrote:

You are not making cards for yourself. There are large number of people who think otherwise and is just plain wrong to ignore them when in costs you nothing (you got empty text box).

You (and your friends that that agree with you) do not represent "large number of people" either. And it is plain wrong to push your opinion by claiming that you are the spokesperson for a big majority.