file Is this Terror?

29 Dec 2011 14:14 - 29 Dec 2011 14:17 #19504 by Killjoy71
Is this Terror? was created by Killjoy71
This is my first attempt ever with to create an Assamite deck.

Please provide feedback so that i may learn and improve.:)

Deck Name : Is this terror?
Author : Killjoy71
Description :
If no votes or bleeds pass then torpor will....?


Crypt [12 vampires] Capacity min: 4 max: 9 average: 6.25

2x Bakr 8 CEL OBF QUI dem pro Assamite:5
2x Vardar Vardarian 6 OBF QUI cel pre Assamite:4
1x Nizzam al-Latif 9 ANI CEL OBF QUI dem Assamite:5
1x Amaravati 8 DOM OBF QUI ani chi Assamite:4
1x Kashan 7 CEL OBF QUI obt pre 1 vote Assamite:4
1x Janni 5 cel for obf qui Assamite:4
1x Layla bint-Nadr 5 CEL OBF qui Assamite:4
1x Michael diCarlo 5 CEL obf qui Assamite:4
1x Bertrand d'Anjou 4 aus cel qui Assamite:4
1x Kamau Jafari 4 QUI obf Assamite:4


Library [68 cards]

Action [8]
3x Haqim's Law: Leadership
5x Loss

Action Modifier [14]
2x Cloak the Gathering
2x Faceless Night
2x Forgotten Labyrinth
2x Lost in Crowds
2x Sleep Unseen
2x Spying Mission
2x Veil the Legions

Action Modifier/Combat [6]
4x Resist Earth's Grasp
2x Swallowed by the Night

Combat [14]
4x Selective Silence
4x Shadow Feint
6x Taste of Death

Master [16]
3x Alamut
1x Archon Investigation
1x Dark Influences
1x Giant's Blood
2x Haven Uncovered
2x Path of Blood, The
1x Lilith's Blessing
1x Underworld Hunting Ground
2x Villein
2x Wash

Political Action [10]
3x Consanguineous Boon
4x Kine Resources Contested
3x Reckless Agitation

VTES is not for the faint of heart...especially when you don't have a enough blood.

Prince Of Geneva
Last edit: 29 Dec 2011 14:17 by Killjoy71.

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29 Dec 2011 15:47 #19515 by Adonai
Replied by Adonai on topic Re: Is this Terror?
I think that you have too many votes compared to the amount of bleed you will be doing. With only 2 Villein, you won't have enough minions in play to make Consanguineous Boon worthwile, I'd drop them.

Have you taken a look at the archived decks at the Path of Blood?

~280 Assamite decks are archived here:
thepathofblood.com/forums/viewforum.php?f=13

There are ~45 tournament winning Assamite decks that might also provide some inspiration, here:
www.thelasombra.com/decks/clan-twd.htm#Assamite

There are also ~470 Assamite decks archived here:
games.groups.yahoo.com/group/rgtcjdeckarchive/msearch?query=assamite&submit=Search&charset=ISO-8859-1

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29 Dec 2011 17:04 #19525 by Killjoy71
Replied by Killjoy71 on topic Re: Is this Terror?
Thanks Jeff,

These links are helpful.


Dean

VTES is not for the faint of heart...especially when you don't have a enough blood.

Prince Of Geneva

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30 Dec 2011 08:22 - 30 Dec 2011 08:45 #19566 by Chaitan
Replied by Chaitan on topic Re: Is this Terror?

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Too random crypt. You will be able to put about 3-4 vampires out in an average game. Isn't it better to choose what vamps you want instead of randomizing? For example, choose the 6 vamps you want to in the ready region and double their number.

Action [8]
3x Haqim's Law: Leadership

Good card. It's hard to have too many of these.

5x Loss

Maybe add 1-2 camera phones? Granted, it has low synergy with Loss but you will do many more bleed actions than 5, why not boost your 1 bleeds to 2 instead.

Action Modifier [14]
2x Cloak the Gathering

11 out of 12 minions have atleast obf. There are better stealth cards than this.

2x Faceless Night

Good card for S&B, more of this.

2x Forgotten Labyrinth

Good for vote. Completely worthless for bleed which is a huge part of your gameplay. Not versatile enough. Remove this.

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2x Lost in Crowds
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More of this. About 3 more, if not more.

2x Sleep Unseen

Afraid to enter combat? What are your 20 combat cards used for then?
Besides, you have a huge problem with blood maintenance, this is 2 blood you can easily save by removing these.

2x Spying Mission

Responsible bleeding. Keep these. Perhaps add more.

2x Veil the Legions

Same issue as Cloak of Gathering but with added bonus of getting more stealth for blood which is good.
But I'd remove these anyway because you need to save blood. Also, your deck should not be afraid to enter combat.

Action Modifier/Combat [6]
4x Resist Earth's Grasp
2x Swallowed by the Night

Yes. As long as you keep your Taste of Death combat angle you need these.

Combat [14]
4x Selective Silence
4x Shadow Feint
6x Taste of Death

Interesting combat package. First Strike, Undodgeable agg. People will think twice before blocking your actions but this is blood and card intensive which makes it not so good in the long run. A few S:CE or prevent cards will foil the entire combat package but few Assamite tactics can be said to be better so this is good enough and depending on your meta potentially disasterous for your opponents. It is a hit or miss tactic.

Master [16]
3x Alamut

As long as you keep your political angle this is a must.

1x Archon Investigation

This is your only defense aside from pool gain. You have a midcap crypt on the high end and masters worth 11 pool. One simple inferior govern the unaligned bleed on you could make this deck crumble beneath its own weight. Not saying you should have this card but I'm not so sure you can afford it. Try to find another angle to survive a predator because you can't kill your preys that fast.

1x Dark Influences

Again, good card that simply is too costly for this deck.

1x Giant's Blood

Yes, you need this.

2x Haven Uncovered

remove these. Your combat package could send someone to torpor fast but you do not have enough combat cards or actions to actively go around chasing people. Use your combat as a hidden threat, don't show people what you actually got.

2x Path of Blood, The

2 pool and 2 master phase actions to save a maximum of 9 blood? Most likely alot less during an average game. Pick another blood gain angle. Heck, even Life in the City would probably be cheaper and just as effective. I'd replace these with two Perfectionist.

1x Lilith's Blessing

Yes.

1x Underworld Hunting Ground

Probabably too expensive and Locations are always vulnerable. But seeing as your deck crave blood then I think you made the right choice here.

2x Villein

Yes. With pretty much no defense this is the only way you can survive.

2x Wash

A good silver bullet card but a silver bullet card nonetheless with all what the means. You could find cards more reliable than this. It's not a bad choice to still use them though.

Political Action [10]
3x Consanguineous Boon
4x Kine Resources Contested
3x Reckless Agitation

As Adonai said, this is probably too many. Your bleed power is not great or fast enough to build up enough votes to sustain the number of political actions you will have on your hand at all times.

You need a defensive angle or the wrong predator will completely obliterate you. Add Black Sunrise about 5 should be fine.

Then either pack permanent intercept which has synergy with your combat package but drawback of costing more pool.
or...
Nest of Eagles which is cheaper but the drawback is that you can only defend against bleed, not other potentially diasterous actions.
Last edit: 30 Dec 2011 08:45 by Chaitan.

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30 Dec 2011 14:04 #19587 by Killjoy71
Replied by Killjoy71 on topic Re: Is this Terror?
Thanks for the feedback.

I will revamp the deck and crypt and come back to you all on this. Probably the votes + Alamut will disappear.

VTES is not for the faint of heart...especially when you don't have a enough blood.

Prince Of Geneva

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30 Dec 2011 17:08 #19617 by Pendargon
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I used to love pathofblood forums

Some serious good discussions and tactics to be found there, lots of original ideas, all focused on assamites.

Sad to see it silent.

:QUI: :POT: :OBE: :CEL: :OBF: :tore: :assa:

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