Serenna and Anu Stickmen
09 Feb 2012 23:24 #22666
by Dorrinal
Replied by Dorrinal on topic Re: Serenna and Anu Stickmen
What's to stop your predator from waiting for Serenna's special ability before increasing the bleed?
What do you do when your predator just bleeds for 2 repeatedly? I do not think you have enough bounce.
If you're going to pretend to intercept, try Sight Beyond Sight and WMRH Talk Radio.
Oops, Anu got banished - add Delaying Tactics and/or DI.
What do you do when your predator just bleeds for 2 repeatedly? I do not think you have enough bounce.
If you're going to pretend to intercept, try Sight Beyond Sight and WMRH Talk Radio.
Oops, Anu got banished - add Delaying Tactics and/or DI.

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10 Feb 2012 01:08 #22670
by Louhi
I think you're being way to safe with that reasoning. Most predators can't use +2 bleed actions due to Anu and Serenna should shut down light bleeds. If the predator is bleeding for 2 all the time then that isn't really that much (also assuming that's 2 after Serenna ability, which is also card intensive for the predator). To top it off there's also bounce! Also, in the end he's sitting on a DOM/OBE deck himself so he should be able to oust before getting ousted.
The delaying(s) are needed though.
Lidingö Scourge
Replied by Louhi on topic Re: Serenna and Anu Stickmen
What's to stop your predator from waiting for Serenna's special ability before increasing the bleed?
What do you do when your predator just bleeds for 2 repeatedly? I do not think you have enough bounce.
If you're going to pretend to intercept, try Sight Beyond Sight and WMRH Talk Radio.
Oops, Anu got banished - add Delaying Tactics and/or DI.
I think you're being way to safe with that reasoning. Most predators can't use +2 bleed actions due to Anu and Serenna should shut down light bleeds. If the predator is bleeding for 2 all the time then that isn't really that much (also assuming that's 2 after Serenna ability, which is also card intensive for the predator). To top it off there's also bounce! Also, in the end he's sitting on a DOM/OBE deck himself so he should be able to oust before getting ousted.
The delaying(s) are needed though.
Lidingö Scourge
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10 Feb 2012 04:40 #22689
by Dorrinal
Replied by Dorrinal on topic Re: Serenna and Anu Stickmen
+2 bleed actions can be perfectly safe. Weenie PRE or DEM? Burn me - three more guys coming through for 3-5 bleeds. Imbued and dementation decks all bleed for 2 regularly. And there's still only 6 bounce in the deck, never mind that each vampire can only play 3 of them.
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Yeah that metagame is very hostile to yourEntombment... Tremere wall... Enkil Cog...


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10 Feb 2012 13:43 #22734
by Louhi
Lidingö Scourge
Replied by Louhi on topic Re: Serenna and Anu Stickmen
+2 bleed actions are under threat of +1 bleed and Archon Investigation from Anu. If a dem deck just bleeds for 2 it's not doing a great job I'd say (and Serenna should handle those small bleeds hopefully). Also those weenie bleed decks would wreck most first preys unless the table realizes in time. Some decks just have tremendous momentum in some direction (be it prey or predator destroyers) and in those cases it comes down to playing the table and talking. A deck that can handle any threat usually isn't a threat itself.
I'm playing the devils advocate though and agree that an extra bounce or two ouldn't hurt, especially if switched with those enhanced senses.
I'm playing the devils advocate though and agree that an extra bounce or two ouldn't hurt, especially if switched with those enhanced senses.
Lidingö Scourge
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10 Feb 2012 21:57 #22785
by Haze
Replied by Haze on topic Re: Serenna and Anu Stickmen
the best part about playing Anu Diptinatpa is that bleeding you for 3 becomes unpredictable and scary. your predator never knows if you're going to pump it to 4 and AI them, or bounce it to your prey and pump it to 4 when they don't block. either way, someone loses.
so I think a few more bounces in this deck would help.
so I think a few more bounces in this deck would help.
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18 Feb 2012 11:10 #23441
by Cooper
Replied by Cooper on topic Re: Serenna and Anu Stickmen
I like the idea, but i am not sure about the bigger picture.
In many games in whch i see AI played the game goes strange ways. Very often the GW does not go to the one who played the AI, but to the predator of the AI-ed vamp. AI makes the game very unstable and unpredictable. hard to prepare against. (people will do less rational things if you just AI-ed their main vampire).
I would be interested to hear your thoughts about that.
W
In many games in whch i see AI played the game goes strange ways. Very often the GW does not go to the one who played the AI, but to the predator of the AI-ed vamp. AI makes the game very unstable and unpredictable. hard to prepare against. (people will do less rational things if you just AI-ed their main vampire).
I would be interested to hear your thoughts about that.
W
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