Time Out! - Anarch Ravnos
06 Jun 2012 12:15 #31751
by jamesatzephyr
To achieve a similar result, I'd probably go for a big Ravnos that can breed competently with - probably - Tumnimos. You can bring out other vampires too, of course.
You get a bunch of anarchs that way, Ravnos Carnival pays for things, and you can turn into a swarm-ish deck if you need to. The weenies potentially let you play Eldest are Kholo as a reaction, where you get 1 vote per weenie. (As a reaction, it doesn't matter about being a Laibon.)
Thinking along the lines of some Gratiano decks I've seen, Spider Killer gives you CHI/ANI/OBF/FOR, for Freaks and possible Animal Magnetism. Obfuscate gives you one of the Veil options (Psychic/the Legions) for your weenies. And his own +1 stealth, of course. Ankla is good, but lacks Ani, so you'd obviously steer away from Animal Magnetism.
If you're confident of being able to pass votes (as opposed to defend Anarchs) in your environment, you can pack a couple of copies of Banishment rather than Reality. In any case, pack a prayer copy of Revolutionary Council and a prayer copy of Week of Nightmares.
Replied by jamesatzephyr on topic Re: Time Out! - Anarch Ravnos
You want a big, anarch Ravnos. Lay down some Anarch Revolts for pressure. Fee Stake and Delaying Tactics should protect your revolts from votes. If your prey makes an anarch, put it in Time Out (Reality).
To achieve a similar result, I'd probably go for a big Ravnos that can breed competently with - probably - Tumnimos. You can bring out other vampires too, of course.
You get a bunch of anarchs that way, Ravnos Carnival pays for things, and you can turn into a swarm-ish deck if you need to. The weenies potentially let you play Eldest are Kholo as a reaction, where you get 1 vote per weenie. (As a reaction, it doesn't matter about being a Laibon.)
Thinking along the lines of some Gratiano decks I've seen, Spider Killer gives you CHI/ANI/OBF/FOR, for Freaks and possible Animal Magnetism. Obfuscate gives you one of the Veil options (Psychic/the Legions) for your weenies. And his own +1 stealth, of course. Ankla is good, but lacks Ani, so you'd obviously steer away from Animal Magnetism.
If you're confident of being able to pass votes (as opposed to defend Anarchs) in your environment, you can pack a couple of copies of Banishment rather than Reality. In any case, pack a prayer copy of Revolutionary Council and a prayer copy of Week of Nightmares.
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06 Jun 2012 13:18 #31752
by Dorrinal
Replied by Dorrinal on topic Re: Time Out! - Anarch Ravnos
I wouldn't risk being able to pass votes with only a Baron and Animal Magnetism, and it would take 3 vampires for Eldest are Kholo to be as strong as Army of Apparitions when defending Anarch Revolt. However, adding Tumnimos, Ravnos Carnival, Veil the Legions and a Revolutionary Council still seem worth while. What would you remove for them? Or would you go up to 90 and adjust card ratios?

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07 Jun 2012 07:46 - 07 Jun 2012 07:51 #31790
by jamesatzephyr
Two big Barons + AM would be 7, 8 with the vote card, 9 with the edge (which a weenie could do) which - in some metagames - is enough. Obviously not if you see Ventrue Law Firm and Stanislava DomiPro on every table, or are competing in the recent "most votes cast in a referendum" discussion.
Hard to say. With only one big vampire to start (and a second two or three turns later, perhaps), I fear action jam might be the biggest issue, even with the Freaks. (Though Heart, Barrens and Dreams do help there, of course.)
Not a massive fan of Hunting Grounds, personally, but that's an issue that splits people a lot. A few copies of Veil probably replaces some of the stealth that's already there. Swap one of the votes for a Revolutionary Council. Where to find space for a few Tumnimos? Not sure. 3 copies would take you up to 83. Add another Freak, another stealth, 85? Unless you go for breeding in a semi-serious way, Ravnos Carnival probably isn't all that good for you. (In part, it helps to pay for more breeding.)
Separately, I'm unsure about the inclusion of Camera Phone in the deck as it stands. Won't stack with your Treasued Samadji, if you find yourself putting both on the same vampire, which in a non-breedy deck seems plausible. If you see a lot of guns or Far Mastery or similar, it probably makes sense - otherwise I'd consider Tasha or JS (unless they got contested a lot).
Replied by jamesatzephyr on topic Re: Time Out! - Anarch Ravnos
I wouldn't risk being able to pass votes with only a Baron and Animal Magnetism, and it would take 3 vampires for Eldest are Kholo to be as strong as Army of Apparitions when defending Anarch Revolt.
Two big Barons + AM would be 7, 8 with the vote card, 9 with the edge (which a weenie could do) which - in some metagames - is enough. Obviously not if you see Ventrue Law Firm and Stanislava DomiPro on every table, or are competing in the recent "most votes cast in a referendum" discussion.
However, adding Tumnimos, Ravnos Carnival, Veil the Legions and a Revolutionary Council still seem worth while. What would you remove for them? Or would you go up to 90 and adjust card ratios?
Hard to say. With only one big vampire to start (and a second two or three turns later, perhaps), I fear action jam might be the biggest issue, even with the Freaks. (Though Heart, Barrens and Dreams do help there, of course.)
Not a massive fan of Hunting Grounds, personally, but that's an issue that splits people a lot. A few copies of Veil probably replaces some of the stealth that's already there. Swap one of the votes for a Revolutionary Council. Where to find space for a few Tumnimos? Not sure. 3 copies would take you up to 83. Add another Freak, another stealth, 85? Unless you go for breeding in a semi-serious way, Ravnos Carnival probably isn't all that good for you. (In part, it helps to pay for more breeding.)
Separately, I'm unsure about the inclusion of Camera Phone in the deck as it stands. Won't stack with your Treasued Samadji, if you find yourself putting both on the same vampire, which in a non-breedy deck seems plausible. If you see a lot of guns or Far Mastery or similar, it probably makes sense - otherwise I'd consider Tasha or JS (unless they got contested a lot).
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25 Jul 2012 17:50 #33832
by Dorrinal
Replied by Dorrinal on topic Re: Time Out! - Anarch Ravnos
Deck Name: Time Out
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You want a big, anarch Ravnos. Lay down some Anarch Revolts for pressure. Fee Stake and Delaying Tactics should protect your revolts from votes. If your prey makes an anarch, put it in Time Out (Reality).
Crypt [12 vampires] Capacity min: 1 max: 10 average: 5.5
Library (75 cards)
Master (20 cards)
7x Anarch Revolt
2x Anarch Troublemaker
2x Blood Doll
3x Dreams of the Sphinx
1x Giant's Blood
1x Perfectionist
3x Villein
1x Week of Nightmares
Event (1 cards)
1x Narrow Minds
Action (12 cards)
1x Entrenching
1x Fee Stake: Boston
1x Fee Stake: Corte
1x Fee Stake: Los Angeles
1x Fee Stake: New York
1x Fee Stake: Perth
1x Fee Stake: Seattle
5x Reality
Political Action (4 cards)
1x Ancient Influence
1x Banishment
1x Political Stranglehold
1x Reckless Agitation
Equipment (3 cards)
1x Heart of Nizchetus
1x Shilmulo Tarot
1x Treasured Samadji
Ally (1 cards)
1x Mylan Horseed (Goblin)
Retainer (2 cards)
1x J. S. Simmons, Esq.
1x Tasha Morgan
Action Modifier (22 cards)
5x Faceless Night
3x Fata Morgana
9x Freak Drive
5x Smoke and Mirrors
Reaction (3 cards)
3x Army of Apparitions
Combo (7 cards)
4x Mirror Image
3x Occlusion
Created with Secret Library v0.9.3. (Jul 25, 2012 22:43:22)
Author:
Description:
You want a big, anarch Ravnos. Lay down some Anarch Revolts for pressure. Fee Stake and Delaying Tactics should protect your revolts from votes. If your prey makes an anarch, put it in Time Out (Reality).
Crypt [12 vampires] Capacity min: 1 max: 10 average: 5.5
4x | Anarch Convert | (1) | Caitiff | (g0) | ||
2x | Ivan Krenyenko | (10) | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | Ravnos | (g2) | |
2x | Spider-Killer | (10) | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | Ravnos | (g2) | |
2x | Ankla Hotep | (9) | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | Ravnos | (g2) | |
1x | Sasha Miklos | (2) | ![]() | Ravnos | (g2) | |
1x | Spleen, Georgio Gutterpunk | (2) | ![]() ![]() | Ravnos | (g2) |
Library (75 cards)
Master (20 cards)
7x Anarch Revolt
2x Anarch Troublemaker
2x Blood Doll
3x Dreams of the Sphinx
1x Giant's Blood
1x Perfectionist
3x Villein
1x Week of Nightmares
Event (1 cards)
1x Narrow Minds
Action (12 cards)
1x Entrenching
1x Fee Stake: Boston
1x Fee Stake: Corte
1x Fee Stake: Los Angeles
1x Fee Stake: New York
1x Fee Stake: Perth
1x Fee Stake: Seattle
5x Reality
Political Action (4 cards)
1x Ancient Influence
1x Banishment
1x Political Stranglehold
1x Reckless Agitation
Equipment (3 cards)
1x Heart of Nizchetus
1x Shilmulo Tarot
1x Treasured Samadji
Ally (1 cards)
1x Mylan Horseed (Goblin)
Retainer (2 cards)
1x J. S. Simmons, Esq.
1x Tasha Morgan
Action Modifier (22 cards)
5x Faceless Night
3x Fata Morgana
9x Freak Drive
5x Smoke and Mirrors
Reaction (3 cards)
3x Army of Apparitions
Combo (7 cards)
4x Mirror Image
3x Occlusion
Created with Secret Library v0.9.3. (Jul 25, 2012 22:43:22)

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25 Jul 2012 17:53 - 25 Jul 2012 17:53 #33833
by Dorrinal
Replied by Dorrinal on topic Re: Time Out! - Anarch Ravnos
I keep iterating on the deck in here. Will get a chance to play it this week. Any ideas or suggestions?
www.vekn.net/index.php/forum/7-deck-clinic/31142-time-out-anarch-ravnos#33832
www.vekn.net/index.php/forum/7-deck-clinic/31142-time-out-anarch-ravnos#33832

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