Red List/Trophy Deck Ventrue
18 Jun 2012 09:57 - 18 Jun 2012 09:58 #32221
by Megabaja
In the beginning of my Trophy/Red List deck idea, i used Red List. But, Red List cannot be played on other titled vampires, and it must be played on younger ones, as opposed to Trumped-Up Charges. That is why the deck has big cap voters and other politics at first place.
I considered adding disarms, but instead of amaranth, disarm, decapitate, or aggravated damage, I tried to use bigger strength to empty vampires, anathema, to burn 'em and gain pool, and trumped-up charges to collect trophies.
I will put Trophy Diablerie in the deck for sure, and I really don't know when I left it out in the first place. On the other hand I could add Archon which gives rush and blood burning in case of block attempts.
Ignorance is bliss.
Cypher, Matrix
Replied by Megabaja on topic Re: Red List/Trophy Deck Ventrue
The card Red List is better than Trumped-up charges IMO because it doesn't require votes and can't be delayed.
In the beginning of my Trophy/Red List deck idea, i used Red List. But, Red List cannot be played on other titled vampires, and it must be played on younger ones, as opposed to Trumped-Up Charges. That is why the deck has big cap voters and other politics at first place.
I considered adding disarms, but instead of amaranth, disarm, decapitate, or aggravated damage, I tried to use bigger strength to empty vampires, anathema, to burn 'em and gain pool, and trumped-up charges to collect trophies.
I will put Trophy Diablerie in the deck for sure, and I really don't know when I left it out in the first place. On the other hand I could add Archon which gives rush and blood burning in case of block attempts.
Ignorance is bliss.
Cypher, Matrix

Last edit: 18 Jun 2012 09:58 by Megabaja.
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18 Jun 2012 10:18 #32223
by Kiddo
Replied by Kiddo on topic Re: Red List/Trophy Deck Ventrue
How about Blood Hunt? True, 1/3rd of your crypt cannot play it and it has some limitations, but it is permanent, works for all the vampires and is not a political action...
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18 Jun 2012 11:12 - 18 Jun 2012 11:15 #32224
by Boris The Blade
Replied by Boris The Blade on topic Re: Red List/Trophy Deck Ventrue
I don't understand how that can possibly work. Hardestadt cannot play Anathema and the others cannot reliably empty a vampire, so you need to influence 21 pool worth of vampires for the deck to start working, with little acceleration and little defense. That is too slow.
Same as Brandon: get rid of Anathema and base the combat on prevent/Disarm/Amaranth so that the first minion you influence can burn vampires on his own.
Same as Brandon: get rid of Anathema and base the combat on prevent/Disarm/Amaranth so that the first minion you influence can burn vampires on his own.
Last edit: 18 Jun 2012 11:15 by Boris The Blade.
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18 Jun 2012 13:09 #32228
by brandonsantacruz
Bloodhunt is a good idea, same with Archon. I think Victor Donaldson could be a good sidekick to play cards like that, along with deflection. Emily Carson is also good because she fits right under him in the govern chain, and both of them under Graham Gottesman. I think that the whole Red List mechanic could be secondary to just pummeling and eating people. Good when it works out, but not required. Depravity could also help on that end for the +1 str, +1 stealth on diablerie.
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How about Blood Hunt? True, 1/3rd of your crypt cannot play it and it has some limitations, but it is permanent, works for all the vampires and is not a political action...
Bloodhunt is a good idea, same with Archon. I think Victor Donaldson could be a good sidekick to play cards like that, along with deflection. Emily Carson is also good because she fits right under him in the govern chain, and both of them under Graham Gottesman. I think that the whole Red List mechanic could be secondary to just pummeling and eating people. Good when it works out, but not required. Depravity could also help on that end for the +1 str, +1 stealth on diablerie.
Be careful when you fight the monsters, lest you become one.
-Friedrich Nietzsche
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18 Jun 2012 13:27 #32230
by Kiddo
Replied by Kiddo on topic Re: Red List/Trophy Deck Ventrue
Island of Yiaros? Heck, I play it even in non-combat Ventrues...
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18 Jun 2012 13:37 #32231
by Boris The Blade
Replied by Boris The Blade on topic Re: Red List/Trophy Deck Ventrue
That is a slippery slope. First you move the focus away from trophies, then you start wondering why you should eat people when you can graverob them and you take all the trophies outI think that the whole Red List mechanic could be secondary to just pummeling and eating people. Good when it works out, but not required.

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