Abusive Alastor's

I took everyone's advice and made some changes -as well as some purchases- hopefully I'll get to test it out soon!

Deck Name :Abusive Alastors
Author :Agamemnon
Description :




Crypt [12 vampires] Capacity min: 4 max: 11 average: 7.91667
3x Lutz von Hohenzollern (11) inner circle Malkavian (group 4)
3x Maris Streck (9) justicar Malkavian (group 3)
2x Quentin King III (7) prince Malkavian (group 3)
1x Morel (6) Malkavian (group 4)
1x Ruth McGinley (6) primogen Malkavian (group 3)
1x Persia, The Beautiful Statue (5) Malkavian (group 3)
1x Sean Rycek (4) Malkavian (group 4)


Library [90 cards]

Action Modifier [9]
2x Closed Session
4x Forgotten Labyrinth
3x Lost in Crowds

Action Modifier/Combat [8]
4x Deny
4x Swallowed by the Night

Combat [11]
7x Taste of Vitae
4x Telepathic Tracking

Equipment [8]
3x AK-47
1x Ambulance
1x Bowl of Convergence
1x Heart of Nizchetus
2x Helicopter

Event [2]
1x NRA PAC
1x NSA Trio

Master [15]
2x Heidelberg Castle, Germany
5x Minion Tap
1x Monastery of Shadows
1x Rack, The
6x Zillah's Valley

Political Action [19]
5x Alastor
5x Anathema
3x Kine Resources Contested
4x Parity Shift
1x Praxis Seizure: Houston
1x Praxis Seizure: Stockholm

Reaction [18]
4x Eagle's Sight
6x On the Qui Vive
3x Precognition
5x Second Tradition: Domain


Crafted with : Anarch Revolt Deck Builder. [Wed Aug 29 02:22:16 2012]

Since you don't seem to be really using dementation much, you might want to consider switching Ruth(or Persia) to Dr. Douglas Netchurch, who has AUS/OBF which is quite nice for your deck.

My personal oppinions about your deck:

Crypt

To few votes. Alastor decks are supposed to be heavy voting decks and you need that near to all kindred got titles.
You can fix it, for example, by including Rafael de Corazon, Mistress Fanchon, Tryphosa, Rachel Brandywine or Michael Luther.

Master

Maybe mix zillah´s with information highway, but not absolutely necessary.

Events

NSA trio ONLY works when a vampire is BLOCKED and putting an equipment thanks to succesful alastor voting is not an equip action. Therefore neither of both events is really interesting for this deck.

Political

More alastor.

Modifiers

Closed session is not a good choice. Prefer telepathic vote counting or perfect paragon for Lutz. 1 or 2 voter captivation could fit in.

Dr.Mafrune wrote:

My personal oppinions about your deck:

Crypt

To few votes. Alastor decks are supposed to be heavy voting decks and you need that near to all kindred got titles.
You can fix it, for example, by including Rafael de Corazon, Mistress Fanchon, Tryphosa, Rachel Brandywine or Michael Luther.

Master

Maybe mix zillah´s with information highway, but not absolutely necessary.

Events

NSA trio ONLY works when a vampire is BLOCKED and putting an equipment thanks to succesful alastor voting is not an equip action. Therefore neither of both events is really interesting for this deck.

Political

More alastor.

Modifiers

Closed session is not a good choice. Prefer telepathic vote counting or perfect paragon for Lutz. 1 or 2 voter captivation could fit in.

More alastor- agreed:laugh:
NRA Pact- I was unaware it wasn't compatable with alastor, so agreed.
NSA Trio- stays as I have plenty of ways to BLOCK vampires and only 4x telepathic tracking to avoid Majesty,staredown,etc.
Closed session- is actually pretty good as there are plenty of indepent/sabbat votes out there so it stays.
Telepathic Vote counting- I own four that I could put in
Perfect paragon- I don't own any:pinch:

as for the crypt
I don't own any mistress fanchon yet but she's the only one I'd consider. I initially wanted to use Persia and ruth for their specials but I'm not sure if first strike with the AK-47 +1 vote is worth the lack of :OBF & :AUS - I think I keep one ruth.. persia's special is not as necesary now so I'll replace her with Dr. Douglas.

The questions I should ask are;
how many votes do I really need if my vampires can rush anyone with a title?

how many 10 capacity vampires do I expect to be able to influence out in a typical game?

the big weakness here is that if you don't get your Alastor passed, you won't be much of a combat threat, and then you won't be able to knock other titled vampires into torpor, so you still can't get votelock. game over.

have a backup plan. Malkavian Rider Clause? Disguised Weapon? ...Bribes?

I agree getting alastor passed is essential to making the deck flow, but as for a combat threat.. If I include some rush cards I could always just equip one of my vampires with an AK-47 (paying full cost+ using OBF for stealth, it helps set up parity shifts requirement and I can use eagles sight to block their titled vampires and generate combat... more work, but still feasable

Assuming I want more votes, I could put 1x Elysium: The Palace of Versailles back in for 3 or 4 extra votes a turn as well as add 1-4x Telepathic Vote Counting as suggested before?