Madame Guil Typhonic Beast
11 Feb 2013 20:11 #45199
by Suoli
Bleeding on your prey's turn is the best protection against AI.
Replied by Suoli on topic Re: Madame Guil Typhonic Beast
Enkil Cog is not so fine since Madame Guil bleeds for 3 with Eye of Hazimel. Cog makes her a permanent Archon Investigation target.
Bleeding on your prey's turn is the best protection against AI.
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11 Feb 2013 21:35 #45200
by Ohlmann
You're talking as if a press was all that special, and prevention was all that useless. inf' Typhonic beast is the same as Horrid form, and horrid form is pretty awesome when free and reasonably useable when not. For Tzimisce deck who both have less easy access to press and no access to additional strike.
Also, IG give a press with Hazimel already. Between that and the fact that doing 6 damage is more a useful luxury than something truly needed by the time you will have every moving part. A luxury which is not worth the slot and cardflow potential problems.
All in all, you are focusing too much on a secondary benefit of the card. Because there is a shiny superior level don't mean it's needed, and because Lillith can fetch a skill card don't mean it will be useful.
Replied by Ohlmann on topic Re: Madame Guil Typhonic Beast
So I put to you this: Why play Typhonic Beast at all if you are going to not take advantage of superior Serpentis? Torn Signpost and Fists of Death are just as good in this case. The small amount of damage prevention is incidental. Use Guardian Angels and Sideslip then.
You're talking as if a press was all that special, and prevention was all that useless. inf' Typhonic beast is the same as Horrid form, and horrid form is pretty awesome when free and reasonably useable when not. For Tzimisce deck who both have less easy access to press and no access to additional strike.
Also, IG give a press with Hazimel already. Between that and the fact that doing 6 damage is more a useful luxury than something truly needed by the time you will have every moving part. A luxury which is not worth the slot and cardflow potential problems.
All in all, you are focusing too much on a secondary benefit of the card. Because there is a shiny superior level don't mean it's needed, and because Lillith can fetch a skill card don't mean it will be useful.
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12 Feb 2013 16:09 #45224
by Jeff Kuta
Actually, from my perspective, you are willfully ignoring the potential benefit and efficiency increase of including a single card. And you are also overstating the increased risk of "cardflow potential problems." Really? Hardly.
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Replied by Jeff Kuta on topic Re: Madame Guil Typhonic Beast
A luxury which is not worth the slot and cardflow potential problems.
All in all, you are focusing too much on a secondary benefit of the card. Because there is a shiny superior level don't mean it's needed, and because Lillith can fetch a skill card don't mean it will be useful.
Actually, from my perspective, you are willfully ignoring the potential benefit and efficiency increase of including a single card. And you are also overstating the increased risk of "cardflow potential problems." Really? Hardly.
When you are anvil, be patient; when a hammer, strike.
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16 Feb 2013 21:52 #45321
by aria
Replied by aria on topic Re: Madame Guil Typhonic Beast
Well, this deck is based on alastor and there is no way this vote pass with only 4 or 5 votes in favor.
This deck is based on a 10cap vampire +1 pool for eye PER TURN. How do you manage to survive your 6th turn, with no villein, no voter cap jst with vessel?
For me 32 combat cards is way too much.
Finally, your deck is not doing better than anneke alastor assault rifle.
This deck is based on a 10cap vampire +1 pool for eye PER TURN. How do you manage to survive your 6th turn, with no villein, no voter cap jst with vessel?
For me 32 combat cards is way too much.
Finally, your deck is not doing better than anneke alastor assault rifle.
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17 Feb 2013 07:45 #45327
by Joscha
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Replied by Joscha on topic Re: Madame Guil Typhonic Beast
Which is (IMHO) not an argument. We don't have to play always the same decks because they have proven to be strong. I find it's always good when people try new ideas of deckbuilding.Finally, your deck is not doing better than anneke alastor assault rifle.
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