Shambling Horde. Need advice.

Thanks for all the replies. Its really nice seeing so many people beeing so helpful to a newcomer like myself

Suoli wrote:

Perfectionist is better than Charisma here.

Wider View is just always good.

And where are your Governs?

took your suggestion and added some governs and replaced charisma with perfectionist, that will save me the trouble of getting charismas

About the wider views, thats basically a trifle ascension since i doubt i will need it for the other effect when 10/12 vampires in my crypt has NEC and even if i get 2 doubles in my crypt i should be able to manage. If will take it into consideration though. Cheers

Haze wrote:

some new combat tech to consider:

Glancing Blow - takes forever to draw back up, but very useful for both your Hordes and your vampires.

Target Vitals - a very popular +2 damage card. you can use these, but you also should expect them to be used against you, even from non-combat decks. if you can prevent the first 1 damage you prevent it all, so that might make Glancing Blow even more valuable.

Dagger - the first melee weapon actually worth using, in my opinion. I haven't tried using Concealed Daggers with Zombies yet, but you should have little fear of ranged combat with some of these. they also combo nicely with Liquidation, since they can pull extra copies out of your ash heap.

This is 3 new cards for me and they all look intresting, i will definatly try to get ahold of a couple glancing blows. As for the target vitals though im not sure they fit with shamblings, i feel usually the problem is getting IN the strike agianst manuevers/doges/s:ce and such. Shamblings hit hard enough in the first place and i feel like its hard fitting enough combat cards as it is.

I love the idea of Shamblings throwing a dagger for 4 dmg but including enough daggers + concealed to consistently draw both might be a strech. I really love the idea though and will definatly try to get ahold of some to test it out. Thanks a ton!

Mael wrote:

I've been experimenting with Tower of London in my Giovanni deck lately, and have to agree Johannes' assessment is correct.
Specialization though always gets me a fair chunk of pool, as well as helping with Hordes. Perfectionist is also worth including, as is Carlton Van Wyk (if you can get a copy). It might also be worth swapping a Horde or two for a couple of copies of Compel the Spirit.

I dont know if its just wishful thinking but with 20 shamblings in the deck i was hoping to put out more then 4 turns of them, but i see your point and both you and Johannes are probably right about the towers. I've added governs and perfectionists for bloat instead.

As for the Compel the Spirits i found in the 3 games i played with them so far that they seamed to always appear when i didnt need them, and they felt to valuable to throw away. Hopefully i can convince my mate to get rid of his Sudario refractions and use them instead and i will be able to use them to retrieve the fallen Shamblings. Ill play around some with Compel the Spirits aswell and see what works best for me.

Changes:
Added 4 governs, 1 extra call of the hungry dead/spectral divination, 2 extra traps 2 glancing blows and a deflection. Removed charisma and walking sticks.

Replaced the Tower of londons with perfectionists. Also added another Unmasking and tossed in a dragonbound that got suggested by a friend.


Deck Name : Shambling
Author : YGG
Description :

Crypt [12 vampires] Capacity min: 3 max: 7 average: 5.16667

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2x Carlotta Giovanni 7 NEC POT dom obf Giovanni:2
2x Gillespi Giovanni 7 DOM NEC POT aus Giovanni:2
2x Isabel Giovanni 5 DOM NEC pot Giovanni:2
2x Le Dinh Tho 5 NEC aus dom Nagaraja:2
2x Gloria Giovanni 4 DOM nec Giovanni:2
2x Rudolfo Giovanni 3 NEC Giovanni:2


Library [90 cards]

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Action [9]
2x Dominate Kine
4x Govern the Unaligned
3x Sudario Refraction

Action Modifier [10]
5x Call of the Hungry Dead
3x Conditioning
2x Seduction

Action Modifier/Reaction [5]
5x Spectral Divination

Ally [26]
1x Carlton Van Wyk (Hunter)
1x Leonardo, Mortician
4x Procurer
20x Shambling Hordes

Combat [8]
2x Fake Out
2x Glancing Blow
4x Trap

Event [4]
1x Dragonbound
1x FBI Special Affairs Division
2x Unmasking, The

Master [18]
2x Acquired Ventrue Assets
4x Blood Doll
2x Fame
1x Giant's Blood
4x Liquidation
1x Morgue Hunting Ground
2x Path of Bone, The
2x Perfectionist

Reaction [10]
8x Deflection
2x Delaying Tactics

YGG wrote:

About the wider views, thats basically a trifle ascension since i doubt i will need it for the other effect when 10/12 vampires in my crypt has NEC and even if i get 2 doubles in my crypt i should be able to manage. If will take it into consideration though. Cheers

With Governs in the deck you will easily get a fourth minion out. Wider View saves you from a couple of turns of crypt fishing at that point. And hey, trifle Ascension is pretty sick.

You might take a look thru the Tournament Winning Deck Archive for interesting cards to add to your deck.

www.thelasombra.com/decks/clan-twd.htm#Giovanni

Andrea Giovanni would be a helpful addition, he gets +1 stealth on his action to put a Shambling Horde in play since that action requires Necromancy.

Charisma + Perfectionist + Path = free ally

If you do manage to get a hold of one, I would certainly keep it in the deck.

Adonai wrote:

You might take a look thru the Tournament Winning Deck Archive for interesting cards to add to your deck.

www.thelasombra.com/decks/clan-twd.htm#Giovanni

Andrea Giovanni would be a helpful addition, he gets +1 stealth on his action to put a Shambling Horde in play since that action requires Necromancy.

Charisma + Perfectionist + Path = free ally

If you do manage to get a hold of one, I would certainly keep it in the deck.

Thanks for the tip about thelasombra, i will definatly check it out. And the Gillespi giovannis in the crypt is supposed to be andrea I just added the the wrong vampire in the deckbuilder by misstake, tanks for catching it though

YGG wrote:

Thanks for the tip about thelasombra, i will definatly check it out.

You might also check out this archive, it has ~128 decks that included Shambling Hordes:

games.groups.yahoo.com/group/rgtcjdeckarchive/msearch?query=shambling+hordes

The results will be sorted by date, with the most recent deck at the top.

Regina Giovanni pays 1 less for allies, which is nifty. With the Govern, she can get more dudes for cheap. What about Lia Milliner? You can probably cut the 2x Dominate Kine for 2x Arson or 1x Arson and 1x something you may be lacking. Pentex Subversion is always a good choice.

BTW, what part of the world do you hail from?