card idea: chi dem
05 May 2013 14:04 - 05 May 2013 14:05 #48201
by Molloy
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card idea: chi dem was created by Molloy
Deja Vu

1
Unique.
: Only useable after resolving a successful
action targeting your prey. Put this card in play. When a minion controlled by your prey announces a political action or a
action targeting you, you may burn this card to cause that action to fail.
: as
, and untap this acting vampire.

1

Unique.















Last edit: 05 May 2013 14:05 by Molloy.
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05 May 2013 14:16 - 05 May 2013 18:54 #48203
by Molloy
Sabbat. Animals, Wraiths and Zombies Molloy recruits or employs get an additional life.
Replied by Molloy on topic Re: card idea: chi dem
It's intended to be a bit of defense early in the game, as well as encouragement to act prey-wards, and potentially devastating in the endgame. If it's too hand-jammy to be any good, it could be changed to
Deja Vu

1
: Only useable on a
action. +1 stealth.
: Only useable after resolving a successful
action targeting your prey. Unique. Put this card in play and untap this acting vampire. When a minion controlled by your prey announces a political action or a
action targeting you, you may burn this card to cause that action to fail.
Deja Vu

1















Last edit: 05 May 2013 18:54 by Molloy.
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05 May 2013 14:56 - 05 May 2013 15:29 #48206
by Ohlmann
Replied by Ohlmann on topic Re: card idea: chi dem
Let's state the obvious : to use that card, you must use a chimestry / dementation crypt, so it's a card you create a deck for, and not a card you add to a deck.
Now, the first version seem outrageous, because a Freak drive that double as a Faerie Ward is, well, very very powerful.
The second one seem more reasonable, but it's still very cheap for what it do. Similar card tend to cost at least two blood and have a capacity requirement. This one allow Ghanesh to counter the next 6 bleed of an Inner Circle.
Also, it make you go forward but it's a very formidable defense if your prey is not too blocky. And it allow you to both use Kindred spirit and this card.
I think it need to be watered down quite a bit. But the idea of putting card into play as a reward for a successful action pretty good.
The second one seem more reasonable, but it's still very cheap for what it do. Similar card tend to cost at least two blood and have a capacity requirement. This one allow Ghanesh to counter the next 6 bleed of an Inner Circle.
Also, it make you go forward but it's a very formidable defense if your prey is not too blocky. And it allow you to both use Kindred spirit and this card.
I think it need to be watered down quite a bit. But the idea of putting card into play as a reward for a successful action pretty good.
Last edit: 05 May 2013 15:29 by Ohlmann.
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05 May 2013 15:12 - 05 May 2013 15:13 #48208
by Kraus
I think you might be confusing Prey with Predator.
I think it's a cool concept, and the card's pretty well written. I'm more of a fan of the second version. Cool stuff.
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Replied by Kraus on topic Re: card idea: chi dem
Not really no, unless they're bleeding backwards with Kinderd Spirits.The second one seem more reasonable, but it's still very cheap for what it do. Similar card tend to cost at least two blood and have a capacity requirement. This one allow Ghanesh to counter the next 6 bleed of an Inner Circle.

I think it's a cool concept, and the card's pretty well written. I'm more of a fan of the second version. Cool stuff.
"Oh, to the Hades with the manners! He's a complete bastard, and calling him that insults bastards everywhere!"
-Nalia De-Arnise
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05 May 2013 15:28 #48210
by Ohlmann
To be precise, I didn't see the restriction to prey action only. Which cancel more or less everything I said.
In this light, the problem is that the card is not really worth the requirement, since your prey won't target you all that often. You may add Army of Rat and other card to incite your prey to target you, but that kind of stuff - and the blocky reaction to make the deck work if you don't draw your Deja Vu - force you to add a third discipline to the mix.
Replied by Ohlmann on topic Re: card idea: chi dem
Not really no, unless they're bleeding backwards with Kinderd Spirits.
I think you might be confusing Prey with Predator.
To be precise, I didn't see the restriction to prey action only. Which cancel more or less everything I said.
In this light, the problem is that the card is not really worth the requirement, since your prey won't target you all that often. You may add Army of Rat and other card to incite your prey to target you, but that kind of stuff - and the blocky reaction to make the deck work if you don't draw your Deja Vu - force you to add a third discipline to the mix.
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05 May 2013 16:07 #48211
by Ashur
"My strategy? Luck is my strategy, of course."
Replied by Ashur on topic Re: card idea: chi dem
I hate being a bore, but " How does this card address a compelling game need?" (If any, I´m not sure it´s an absolute requirement, but it helps to know how you are thinking)
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