ReVamping VTES?
27 Jan 2018 15:38 - 27 Jan 2018 15:39 #85125
by Lönkka
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27 Jan 2018 21:21 #85126
by LivesByProxy
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So I had an idea that I'd like to get some feedback on.
Hand jam can be a problem for even the best built decks, and because the turn structure only has one phase (the end phase) which allows a player to discard a card (1 card) in order to draw a new one. This results in players experiencing hand jam to try to create situations where they can play cards sub-optimally in order to get them out of hand and cycle into something better.
My proposal is to introduce a new basic action alongside bleed and hunt: the 'plot' action. A vampire can 'plot' at +1 stealth, which results in them tapping in order to put a card on them face-down. That card can later be played from that vampire, following all its normal timing rules and costs. Of course, because the card is no longer in your hand, you draw to replace it.
I'm curious to know what you guys and gals think of such a rule.
Hand jam can be a problem for even the best built decks, and because the turn structure only has one phase (the end phase) which allows a player to discard a card (1 card) in order to draw a new one. This results in players experiencing hand jam to try to create situations where they can play cards sub-optimally in order to get them out of hand and cycle into something better.
My proposal is to introduce a new basic action alongside bleed and hunt: the 'plot' action. A vampire can 'plot' at +1 stealth, which results in them tapping in order to put a card on them face-down. That card can later be played from that vampire, following all its normal timing rules and costs. Of course, because the card is no longer in your hand, you draw to replace it.
I'm curious to know what you guys and gals think of such a rule.









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27 Jan 2018 22:12 #85128
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my knee-jerk reaction is that it's going to give an unfair advantage to weenis decks, even if you limit it to one card per vampire. It's effectively "tap a minion, get +1 Hand Size," no?
I feel like that's what the Discard Phase is for.
I feel like that's what the Discard Phase is for.
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28 Jan 2018 05:17 #85131
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It seems like Weenies are the larger problem here.










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28 Jan 2018 06:15 #85132
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There is no larger problem here, just you looking for windmills to fight.
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28 Jan 2018 07:37 - 28 Jan 2018 07:57 #85133
by Kraus
Card flow is a thing youll have tp sort out for your deck. Youll get experienced in this as you play.
It is a unique feature in vtes that rewards good playing and deck building. It is the first thing i would not touch in this game in particular.
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This.There is no larger problem here, just you looking for windmills to fight.
Card flow is a thing youll have tp sort out for your deck. Youll get experienced in this as you play.
It is a unique feature in vtes that rewards good playing and deck building. It is the first thing i would not touch in this game in particular.
"Oh, to the Hades with the manners! He's a complete bastard, and calling him that insults bastards everywhere!"
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