file Why you should not let ChatGPT build decks for you...

29 May 2023 10:42 #108193 by Ashur
In our try it wanted to include "Anson, Ventrue Advisor" or "Calista Marius".

"My strategy? Luck is my strategy, of course."
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30 May 2023 08:19 #108202 by Timo

I tried to help it along with some restrictions on what not to include in the deck, this is what I got:
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Based on your specifications, here's a sample V:TES deck with 70 library cards and 12 crypt cards that focuses on Dominate and Obfuscate disciplines and excludes combat, equipment, political, and event cards:

Crypt (12 cards):
- 4x Malkavian Anto (Group 1, Capacity 4, Dominate, Obfuscate)
- 4x Malkavian Raphael de Corazon (Group 2, Capacity 5, Dominate, Obfuscate)
- 4x Malkavian Gravitnir (Group 2, Capacity 6, Dominate, Obfuscate)

Library (70 cards):
Master Cards:
- 10x Blood Doll
- 10x Dominate
- 10x Obfuscate
- 10x Dreams of the Sphinx
- 10x Minion Tap
- 10x Liquidation

Action Modifier Cards:
- 10x Lost in Crowds
- 10x Cloak the Gathering

Event Cards: None included as per your request.

Note: Since you specified excluding combat, equipment, political, and event cards, this sample deck focuses primarily on the Dominate and Obfuscate disciplines and includes basic cards that support the deck's capabilities without involving those excluded elements. Please keep in mind that the effectiveness of a deck can vary based on the specific card pool, the chosen strategy, and the dynamics of the play environment. Adjustments and modifications may be necessary for optimal performance in a given game or tournament setting.


This one is my favourite ! :ohmy:

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30 May 2023 16:24 #108205 by DocSeven

That being said, it would be really funny to see, if you have 5 of these "AI"-generated decks, and have human players play against each with these decks.


Yes, that may be an interesting way to play the game. This would be an alternative to letting your opponents build the deck: I once played some MTG with this kind of setup. But you needed special rules for deck-building, otherwise the decks would end up completely unplayable.

In the AI-mode you have to make sure that the cards proposed by ChatGPT actually exist... Judging from this thread, it seems to make up some cards here and there.

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31 May 2023 10:23 #108208 by Lönkka

That being said, it would be really funny to see, if you have 5 of these "AI"-generated decks, and have human players play against each with these decks.


Yes, that may be an interesting way to play the game. This would be an alternative to letting your opponents build the deck: I once played some MTG with this kind of setup. But you needed special rules for deck-building, otherwise the decks would end up completely unplayable.


A tournament style format where you score normally for the deck you play, but the deck YOU built is randomly assigned to one other player. (So too you're playing the deck someone else built)

But ALSO in addition to the normal points, you ALSO score points for the deck you built.

Optimal situation would be if people never sat on the same table with a person playing the deck they built so no additional score optimization would be possible by dealmaking.

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31 May 2023 12:12 #108209 by Timo

That being said, it would be really funny to see, if you have 5 of these "AI"-generated decks, and have human players play against each with these decks.


Yes, that may be an interesting way to play the game. This would be an alternative to letting your opponents build the deck: I once played some MTG with this kind of setup. But you needed special rules for deck-building, otherwise the decks would end up completely unplayable.


A tournament style format where you score normally for the deck you play, but the deck YOU built is randomly assigned to one other player. (So too you're playing the deck someone else built)

But ALSO in addition to the normal points, you ALSO score points for the deck you built.

Optimal situation would be if people never sat on the same table with a person playing the deck they built so no additional score optimization would be possible by dealmaking.


In France we have some unsanctioned tournaments using special rules. the most successful across the years is "prête moi ton deck, le mien est nul" which could be translated as "Lend me your deck, mine sucks".

And we use a double archon, one for the players and one for the decks.

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01 Jun 2023 09:40 #108212 by Lönkka

In France we have some unsanctioned tournaments using special rules. the most successful across the years is "prête moi ton deck, le mien est nul" which could be translated as "Lend me your deck, mine sucks".

And we use a double archon, one for the players and one for the decks.


Sounds exactly what I was after!

Has there been any problems or need for other special rules to weed out any initial probelms and such from the format?

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