Re: Blood to Water clarification

Hi,

Do you mean that even if a setting the range effect has resolved, the range is not trully set before the end of the Pre-Maneuver effect window?

Regards,
Rémi.

In a manner of speaking, yes. Even though a set-range effect is queued, and will kick in and skip maneuvers, you still have a pre-range step first. Once both players have finished playing pre-range cards, maneuvers are skipped and range is set.

I think the range is set as soon as the effect setting it is done. You still get to play pre-maneuver cards before the range step is skipped, but the range setting is not "delayed".

Example to this effect:
- A blocks with Sniper Rifle and sets the range to long
- A plays Outside the Hourglass at superior
- Maneuver step is skipped
- A plays Majesty and combat ends
- A cannot play Disarm - Outside the Hourglass damage was at long range.

See groups.google.com/g/rec.games.trading-cards.jyhad/c/j98aqFIFjnE/m/6yTbvCofUiIJ
for a more detailed discussion. Excerpt:

> If Fear of the Void Below (dai/DAI) would've been played earlier,
> would Outside the Hourglass then trigger the Improvised Flamethrower?
Yes. (And Disarm would not be playable, since the range is long)

> If range is set as a pre. Is it fair to say, "range has been
> determined"?
No.

> Or do you have to wait for the Determine Range Step to be passed,
> whither skipped or not.
You finish "before range stuff" before moving on.

> If range has been determined to be close as a result of a pre, can you
> play Immortal Prapple(and the like) in the pre-range step?
No.

Hi,

So if I play superior Immortal Grapple during round 1.
I can play Blood to Water during the "before range is chosen" window. I am now almost sure about that !


Thanks in advance,
Regards.
Rémi.

Rémi wrote:

Hi,

So if I play superior Immortal Grapple during round 1.
I can play Blood to Water during the "before range is chosen" window. I am now almost sure about that !


Thanks in advance,
Regards.
Rémi.

Yes, you can.

Edit: I misunderstood the questions
You could do this with any pre-maneuver, but never with BtW. Range must be set first, and that cannot happen until pre-maneuvers are handled. Even if pre-determined by IG.