file Kaymakli Nightmares

03 Nov 2021 16:13 #103769 by Raven
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Kaymakli Nightmares

Master.All Methuselahs move any crypt cards in their uncontrolled regions to their crypts. Any blood counters on them are moved to the Methuselah's pool, and any cards on them are burned. Each Methuselah shuffles his or her crypt and then moves as many cards from his or her crypt to his or her uncontrolled region as he or she shuffled in. Only one Kaymakli Nightmares may be played per game.


Does it mean that all players shuffle all their vampires im uncontrolled regions to crypt or they can choose which ones they want to shuffle?

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03 Nov 2021 16:28 #103771 by beslin igor
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All players shuffle all their vampires in uncontrolled regions to crypt

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04 Nov 2021 11:20 - 04 Nov 2021 11:21 #103779 by Bloodartist
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Poor use of the word "any" in Kaymakli nightmares text. Should say "all".

A heretic is a man who sees with his own eyes.
—Gotthold Ephraim Lessing



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04 Nov 2021 13:31 #103781 by inm8
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Poor use of the word "any" in Kaymakli nightmares text. Should say "all".



The reason to use "any" instead of "all" is that the fact of there being crypt cards in a Methuselah's uncontrolled region and there being blood counters or cards on a crypt card is not known nor a certainty.
"any" is being correctly used as per the English language and depending on the context, it may mean just one, or it could mean more than one i.e. some or all.

"any" and "all" are at times interchangeable and in the case of the card text of Kaymakli Nightmares it wouldn´t change the meaning.

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04 Nov 2021 14:32 #103783 by Yomyael
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Poor use of the word "any" in Kaymakli nightmares text. Should say "all".



The reason to use "any" instead of "all" is that the fact of there being crypt cards in a Methuselah's uncontrolled region and there being blood counters or cards on a crypt card is not known nor a certainty.
"any" is being correctly used as per the English language and depending on the context, it may mean just one, or it could mean more than one i.e. some or all.

"any" and "all" are at times interchangeable and in the case of the card text of Kaymakli Nightmares it wouldn´t change the meaning.


Be that as it may, it does create confusion considering that cards like Great Symposium at times used the wording "any" in the sense of "any one". Even though it is permitted, one should strive to keep words and sentences with a unique meaning in cardgames.

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04 Nov 2021 19:11 - 04 Nov 2021 19:12 #103786 by Bloodartist
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"any" is being correctly used as per the English language and depending on the context, it may mean just one, or it could mean more than one i.e. some or all.


Which is exactly why it shouldn't be used here. It introduces uncertainty, while ALL minions in the uncontrolled region are affected by the card.

A heretic is a man who sees with his own eyes.
—Gotthold Ephraim Lessing



Last edit: 04 Nov 2021 19:12 by Bloodartist.

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