file Can a Flaming Candle be moved by a Heidelberg Castle, Germany?

03 Nov 2022 09:46 #106695 by Coyote
Move equipment implies the receiving vampire equips it?
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Name: Flaming Candle
[BH:R, NB:PTr1]
Cardtype: Equipment
Only one Flaming Candle can be played or equipped in a game.
This vampire can burn 1 blood and the Flaming Candle as they announce an action to make that action unblockable by vampires.
Artist: Becky Jollensten

Name: Heidelberg Castle, Germany
AKA: Heidelburg Castle, Germany
[DS:U2, FN:PR, KMW:PAl, LoB:PI, 25th:1]
Cardtype: Master
Cost: 2 pool
Unique location.
Lock to move blood, equipment and/or retainers between any two ready vampires you control. Cannot be used during an action.
Artist: L. A. Williams

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03 Nov 2022 10:09 #106696 by Bloodartist
I believe the answer is yes.
Moving isn't equipping, and the cardtext is intended to prevent equipping multiples via a different action than itself, such as magic of the smith.

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03 Nov 2022 12:39 #106697 by Ankha

I believe the answer is yes.
Moving isn't equipping, and the cardtext is intended to prevent equipping multiples via a different action than itself, such as magic of the smith.

Correct.
Also, a vampire can equip the Candle from another vampire, since it's the same copy (the Candle's cardtext prevents from equipping another copy).

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03 Nov 2022 12:59 #106698 by Coyote

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13 Mar 2023 18:38 - 13 Mar 2023 18:42 #107611 by Hobbesgoblin

I believe the answer is yes.
Moving isn't equipping, and the cardtext is intended to prevent equipping multiples via a different action than itself, such as magic of the smith.

Correct.
Also, a vampire can equip the Candle from another vampire, since it's the same copy (the Candle's cardtext prevents from equipping another copy).


According to [LSJ 20060209] a second copy can be "put into play" with effects like Kiss of Lachesis, or Grasping the ghostly (presumably also summon history)

I have now two questions:
1) is this ruling upheld with the new wording, regarding "only one candle can be played"?
(this question touches on the wider topic of "does putting into play, count as playing a card?")
2) if so, would that stop usind the rulebook "equip-action" to transfer the candle?

Kiss of Lachesis


Grasp the Ghostly


Summon History
Last edit: 13 Mar 2023 18:42 by Hobbesgoblin.

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14 Mar 2023 07:35 - 14 Mar 2023 07:36 #107624 by Ankha

I believe the answer is yes.
Moving isn't equipping, and the cardtext is intended to prevent equipping multiples via a different action than itself, such as magic of the smith.

Correct.
Also, a vampire can equip the Candle from another vampire, since it's the same copy (the Candle's cardtext prevents from equipping another copy).


According to [LSJ 20060209] a second copy can be "put into play" with effects like Kiss of Lachesis, or Grasping the ghostly (presumably also summon history)

I have now two questions:
1) is this ruling upheld with the new wording, regarding "only one candle can be played"?
(this question touches on the wider topic of "does putting into play, count as playing a card?")

The ruling is still valid.

2) if so, would that stop usind the rulebook "equip-action" to transfer the candle?

No, for the reason given in the previous post (it's the same copy).

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Ratings Coordinator, Rules Director
Last edit: 14 Mar 2023 07:36 by Ankha.

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