Inscription and Hunger of Marduk
11 Jul 2023 20:34 #108652
by Hakuron
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Can "Inscription" be played by a non-Banu Haqim to put this equipment with a copy of "Hunger of Marduk" on a non-Banu Haqim?
And can the latter use this copy?
I guess the answer is "yes" in both cases, because "put" and "use" usually circumvent clan requirements, but I would like to be sure.
Thanks in advance!
Inscription
Cardtype: Equipment
Discipline: Thaumaturgy
Equipment.
[tha] Put this equipment on a ready vampire and put a card that requires Blood Sorcery [tha] from your hand on it (face up, out of play; this acting vampire pays the cost of that card). The vampire with this equipment can burn this equipment to use the basic Blood Sorcery ability of that card.
[THA] As above, but the vampire can use the superior Blood Sorcery [THA] ability of the card.
Hunger of Marduk
Cardtype: Combat
Clan: Banu Haqim
Discipline: Thaumaturgy
Only usable before range is determined.
[tha] This round, this vampire can strike, ranged: steal 1 blood or life (becoming blood).
[THA] As above, but for 2 blood or life (becoming blood).
And can the latter use this copy?
I guess the answer is "yes" in both cases, because "put" and "use" usually circumvent clan requirements, but I would like to be sure.
Thanks in advance!
Inscription
Cardtype: Equipment
Discipline: Thaumaturgy
Equipment.
[tha] Put this equipment on a ready vampire and put a card that requires Blood Sorcery [tha] from your hand on it (face up, out of play; this acting vampire pays the cost of that card). The vampire with this equipment can burn this equipment to use the basic Blood Sorcery ability of that card.
[THA] As above, but the vampire can use the superior Blood Sorcery [THA] ability of the card.
Hunger of Marduk
Cardtype: Combat
Clan: Banu Haqim
Discipline: Thaumaturgy
Only usable before range is determined.
[tha] This round, this vampire can strike, ranged: steal 1 blood or life (becoming blood).
[THA] As above, but for 2 blood or life (becoming blood).
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12 Jul 2023 00:30 #108655
by kschaefer
Replied by kschaefer on topic Inscription and Hunger of Marduk
No. The only requirement that is obviated is Blood Sorcery.
See this LSJ ruling: groups.google.com/g/rec.games.trading-cards.jyhad/c/RQBw8EnnD5s/m/NpdTwIuChy8J
See this LSJ ruling: groups.google.com/g/rec.games.trading-cards.jyhad/c/RQBw8EnnD5s/m/NpdTwIuChy8J
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13 Jul 2023 20:05 #108681
by Hakuron
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Replied by Hakuron on topic Inscription and Hunger of Marduk
@Ankha: Would you please confirm this ruling?
I know it was done by LSJ, but to be honest I do not understand why clan requirement is not circumvented in this case.
I know it was done by LSJ, but to be honest I do not understand why clan requirement is not circumvented in this case.
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14 Jul 2023 07:55 #108684
by Coyote
Replied by Coyote on topic Inscription and Hunger of Marduk
I also feel it strange. Unless "pays the cost of that card" includes "paying" the requirements. But I feel requirements and cost are different things.
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18 Jul 2023 07:43 #108726
by Hakuron
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Replied by Hakuron on topic Inscription and Hunger of Marduk
Still hoping for a (detailed) answer.@Ankha: Would you please confirm this ruling?
I know it was done by LSJ, but to be honest I do not understand why clan requirement is not circumvented in this case.

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18 Jul 2023 08:14 - 19 Jul 2023 15:34 #108727
by inm8
This ruling is off in my opinion and should be reversed… LSJ ruled that explicitly written requirements in the card text couldn’t be ignored which makes sense, but this ruling is changing how requirements on the attribute bar are handled for cards in play which doesn’t make sense.
For the card towork as ruled here consider the requirements on the attribute bar it would need explicit text saying something like “play the card as if from your hand.” which it doesn’t.
** updated the text as a ruling hasn´t actually been given...don´t know where I got that notion from...
Replied by inm8 on topic Inscription and Hunger of Marduk
For the card to
** updated the text as a ruling hasn´t actually been given...don´t know where I got that notion from...
Last edit: 19 Jul 2023 15:34 by inm8.
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