file Use Erciyes to discard a prey's combat card and activate Haqim's Law Retribution

30 Aug 2023 15:07 #109211 by Spind
Hey folks! Question: Considering the rule
Can be used during an action, when the controller has the opportunity to play an effect. [ANK 20200616]
of Erciyes Fragments, can I use it to get a combat card from my prey's ash heap and discard it to get +1 bleed with Haqim's Law: Retribution?
Considering that Erciyes says that you can Play as if it were in you hand.


The Erciyes Fragments

Haqim's Law: Retribution

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30 Aug 2023 15:42 #109212 by DavidR
You can play the card as if it was on your hand, discard is not play the card, so i think you can't

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30 Aug 2023 16:01 #109213 by Ankha

You can play the card as if it was on your hand, discard is not play the card, so i think you can't

Correct.

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30 Aug 2023 16:24 #109214 by Spind
So, the ruling that says that the card can play an *effect*, the "discard a card" cannot be considered the effect in question, correct?

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30 Aug 2023 16:46 #109215 by Ankha

So, the ruling that says that the card can play an *effect*, the "discard a card" cannot be considered the effect in question, correct?

I don't know what you are talking about.
Here's the relevant ruling:

groups.google.com/g/rec.games.trading-cards.jyhad/c/W784_3oyz7I/m/Cgek1j9Hv-8J

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30 Aug 2023 20:22 #109219 by Bloodartist

So, the ruling that says that the card can play an *effect*, the "discard a card" cannot be considered the effect in question, correct?


To discard a card you must have a card in your hand.

When you have a card on erciyes fragment, the card is never in your hand even if you can play it from the fragment.

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