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21 Dec 2023 11:01 #110138 by inm8
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A question came up in the discord.

When a vampire fakes a title to play a card does it grant the faking vampire the votes associated with the faked title?

ex
Vidal Jarbeaux plays Parity Shift as a justicar, does he get the 3 votes from the faked justicar title in the referendum?

Does the same apply to Vlad Tepes?


Vidal Jarbeaux


Parity Shift


Vlad Tepes

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21 Dec 2023 11:45 #110139 by lip
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And follow-up, what about vote bonuses that the vote card itself provides (seeing them as matching the requirement), for example Watch Tower: Greatest Falls and Investiture.

Watch Tower: Greatest Falls


Investiture

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21 Dec 2023 12:40 #110141 by DavidR
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As i see, Vidal can't play cards requiring a title, title is not a trait, and vlad can play a parity shift but don't get the votes of the title, he just fullfil the requeriment to play the card, then i presume that bonus votes too aren't earned

but let's see what others think about it
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21 Dec 2023 13:50 - 21 Dec 2023 13:51 #110142 by Hobbesgoblin
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As i see, Vidal can't play cards requiring a title, title is not a trait, and vlad can play a parity shift but don't get the votes of the title, he just fullfil the requeriment to play the card, then i presume that bonus votes too aren't earned

but let's see what others think about it


Vidal can play cards reqireing a tile, tiles are traints in this context:

www.vekn.net/forum/rules-questions/79278-vidal-jarbeaux-cards-requiring-prince#103703
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21 Dec 2023 18:45 #110148 by Ankha
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A question came up in the discord.

When a vampire fakes a title to play a card does it grant the faking vampire the votes associated with the faked title?

ex
Vidal Jarbeaux plays Parity Shift as a justicar, does he get the 3 votes from the faked justicar title in the referendum?

No. The votes provided by titles are granted by the general rules, not by the card that is requiring the title.

Does the same apply to Vlad Tepes?

Same for Vlad.
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21 Dec 2023 18:46 #110149 by Ankha
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And follow-up, what about vote bonuses that the vote card itself provides (seeing them as matching the requirement), for example Watch Tower: Greatest Falls and Investiture.

Yes, as the additional votes are granted by the card (that sees X as a Seraph or a Cardinal)
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