Is a Minion card also played implcetly by the methuselah?

With the release of "Backroom Deal" I fell into a thought experiment that led me to the titled question.



following scenario:

You control Victor Gerard (or Vidal Or Mata Hari )



Backroom Deal is a card requiring a Primogen, therefore implicitly requreing a Camarilla Vampire. [LSJ 20050128]

Can another Primogen you control, play "Backroom Deals" to while Victor Gerard is acting, to give him +1 Stealth?

While on the first glance it seems like a clear "no", since the rolebook clearly says:

Minion cards are played by the minions (vampires and allies) the Methuselah controls.

BUT
there are several cards that refer to minion cards played by "you", either implicitly, or excplicitly:

Powerbase Tshwane always has been used to discount the Pool cost of Minion cards, like allies, despit it saysing "cards you play"


The same with "The Shard", but here even Blood costs are discounted, but sicne they are no Mater Cards that cost blood, it must mean that "you" play minion cards that can be discounted by 2 blood.


Here its even more explicit: "If you played a political action card" "you" is the playing methuselah, and "political action card" is a minion card.

So if we assume these as default behaviour of the game, that a card played by your minions is implicitly played by "you", the methuselah, that would mean, a Backroom Deals played by a primogen is also played by "you" and you should/could be able to use Victors special to play it "as if here where a camarilla vampire" and therefore give him stealth, as the card now sees him as camarilla.

There should be more than one source for this:
ANK 20201028
ANK 20190228
LSJ 20101013

Best to look at Vlad Tepes on VDB.im

Vlad does not allow "You" to play and use cards as of he where any sect or title.

None of these rulings cover what I am asking, thea are all about somevampire playing a card themsevles and choosing themselves.

Powerbase: Tshwane


Shard of London


Victor Gerard


TLDR, count Victor Gerard as a Camarilla vampire for playing cards on him that target Camarilla vampires.

-misunderstood the question, please delete this post-

Plus, you can see vtes-biased.github.io/vtes-advanced-rules/