Creating an inner circle theme deck
26 Apr 2011 12:54 #3780
by jhattara
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Because he's the one new IC without obfuscate.
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26 Apr 2011 12:58 - 26 Apr 2011 12:59 #3781
by Izaak
Replied by Izaak on topic Re: Creating an inner circle theme deck
It's not really rocket science. You make a crypt of Inner Circle members, accelarate them out with Zillah's and Info Highway and then take 6-9 of their blood back to your pool (depending on your strategy). You can then do whatever you want, really.
There is a very good Flurry of Action bleed CEL/OBF/DOM bleed deck in the TWDA called Order 66 . I have my own version of that deck, which uses nothing but Inner Circle members based on Adana, Fanchon and Rafael as well as a version that is more vote-heavy based on Lutz and Rafael that uses Alastor/Helicopter for multi-acting.
I recently encountered a Hardestadt rush deck at a tournament and although that was more of a superstar deck, I can imagine Josef, Adana and Hardestadt could make for some nasty hardhitting rushing machine. As a bonus you don't need to worry about an ousting mechanism
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It's too bad the G4 inner circles mostly have the same disciplines on their off-clans. Like, only Josef has animalism, only Hardestadt has fortitude and only Fanchon has thaumaturgy, while FIVE of them have obfuscate. If there would be a little better spread, there'd be a lot more deck options.
Rafael has obfuscate. It's Hardestadt that lacks it, but he has Finnish obfuscate (even upgraded at that!) so you should like him
There is a very good Flurry of Action bleed CEL/OBF/DOM bleed deck in the TWDA called Order 66 . I have my own version of that deck, which uses nothing but Inner Circle members based on Adana, Fanchon and Rafael as well as a version that is more vote-heavy based on Lutz and Rafael that uses Alastor/Helicopter for multi-acting.
I recently encountered a Hardestadt rush deck at a tournament and although that was more of a superstar deck, I can imagine Josef, Adana and Hardestadt could make for some nasty hardhitting rushing machine. As a bonus you don't need to worry about an ousting mechanism
.It's too bad the G4 inner circles mostly have the same disciplines on their off-clans. Like, only Josef has animalism, only Hardestadt has fortitude and only Fanchon has thaumaturgy, while FIVE of them have obfuscate. If there would be a little better spread, there'd be a lot more deck options.
Because he's the one new IC without obfuscate.
Rafael has obfuscate. It's Hardestadt that lacks it, but he has Finnish obfuscate (even upgraded at that!) so you should like him
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26 Apr 2011 14:25 #3784
by Mael
Replied by Mael on topic Re: Creating an inner circle theme deck
If you want to further increase the complexity of the deck, go with multiple copies of Hardestadt, a few obf masters, and a Soul Gem to get the rest of the crypt into play. A few copies of Chain of Command would also be useful for shuffling the other IC vamps back into the crypt for Soul Gem.
I'm not saying it's a good idea, but if you want to avoid the obvious deck
I'm not saying it's a good idea, but if you want to avoid the obvious deck
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26 Apr 2011 16:18 - 26 Apr 2011 19:31 #3785
by Damnans
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Replied by Damnans on topic Re: Creating an inner circle theme deck
Deck Name : The Might of the Inner Circle
Author : Damnans
Description : Bring out Rafael de Corazón first (even though Mistress Fanchon will do as well). Have him learn superior Necromancy as soon as possible (via the Sargon Fragment or master: disciplines). The first political action Rafael should call should be either Might of the Camarilla or Alastor (preferrably). If he calls Might of the Camarilla you can burn any of your uncontrolled vampires that you do not want to influence out. Once Rafael or another of your vampires has superior Necromancy, you will have to play Possession on any vampire in your ash heap. There are a few peculiar vampires in your crypt, who are meant for blood gain (Dmitra), card recursion (Undele), and the vote lock (Orlando). Once you have enough vampires in your ready region, you can start to oust each of your preys by bleeding at stealth, and burning their vampires with the Banishment and Might of the Camarilla combo granted by Undele's card recursion ability.
Crypt [12 vampires] Capacity min: 9 max: 11 average: 10.4167
3x Rafael de Corazón 11 AUS CEL DOM OBF PRE inner circle Toreador:4
1x Adana de Sforza 11 CEL OBF POT PRE PRO aus inner circle Brujah:4
1x Josef von Bauren 11 ANI DEM OBF POT cel inner circle Nosferatu:4
1x Lutz von Hohenzoll 11 AUS DEM OBF PRE pot inner circle Malkavian:4
1x Mistress Fanchon 11 AUS CEL DOM OBF THA VIC inner circle Tremere:4
1x Sha-Ennu 11 ANI AUS CHI VIC obf tha regent Tzimisce:4
1x Alonso Petrodon 10 ANI DOM OBF POT for tha justicar Nosferatu:5
1x Dmitra Ilyanova 9 CEL FOR POT PRE obf justicar Brujah:5
1x Orlando Oriundus 9 AUS DOM THA obf bishop !Tremere:4
1x Undele 9 CEL FOR obf pre ser magaji Ishtarri:5
Library [90 cards]
Action [12]
2x Blood Bond // my playgroup is a bit too wallish
1x Kaymakli Barrier
9x Possession
Action Modifier [16]
3x Cloak the Gathering
4x Faceless Night
3x Forgotten Labyrinth
3x Lost in Crowds
2x Spying Mission
1x Voter Captivation // retrievable via Undele's ability
Action Modifier/Combat [3]
3x Swallowed by the Night
Equipment [4]
1x Flaming Candle
2x Helicopter
1x Sargon Fragment, The
Event [1]
1x Anthelios, The Red Star
Master [30]
3x Ashur Tablets // to get stealth cards back
3x Dreams of the Sphinx
1x Giant's Blood
1x Golconda: Inner Peace
1x Heidelberg Castle, Germany
1x Information Highway
1x Lilith's Blessing
8x Necromancy
3x Parthenon, The
1x Redeem the Lost Soul // For burned copies of Rafael de Corazón
1x Secure Haven
6x Villein
Political Action [18]
3x Alastor
1x Ancient Influence
1x Banishment // to be played over and over again via Undele's ability
10x Might of the Camarilla
1x Parity Shift
1x Political Stranglehold
1x Reins of Power
Reaction [6]
4x Deflection
2x My Enemy's Enemy
Author : Damnans
Description : Bring out Rafael de Corazón first (even though Mistress Fanchon will do as well). Have him learn superior Necromancy as soon as possible (via the Sargon Fragment or master: disciplines). The first political action Rafael should call should be either Might of the Camarilla or Alastor (preferrably). If he calls Might of the Camarilla you can burn any of your uncontrolled vampires that you do not want to influence out. Once Rafael or another of your vampires has superior Necromancy, you will have to play Possession on any vampire in your ash heap. There are a few peculiar vampires in your crypt, who are meant for blood gain (Dmitra), card recursion (Undele), and the vote lock (Orlando). Once you have enough vampires in your ready region, you can start to oust each of your preys by bleeding at stealth, and burning their vampires with the Banishment and Might of the Camarilla combo granted by Undele's card recursion ability.
Crypt [12 vampires] Capacity min: 9 max: 11 average: 10.4167
3x Rafael de Corazón 11 AUS CEL DOM OBF PRE inner circle Toreador:4
1x Adana de Sforza 11 CEL OBF POT PRE PRO aus inner circle Brujah:4
1x Josef von Bauren 11 ANI DEM OBF POT cel inner circle Nosferatu:4
1x Lutz von Hohenzoll 11 AUS DEM OBF PRE pot inner circle Malkavian:4
1x Mistress Fanchon 11 AUS CEL DOM OBF THA VIC inner circle Tremere:4
1x Sha-Ennu 11 ANI AUS CHI VIC obf tha regent Tzimisce:4
1x Alonso Petrodon 10 ANI DOM OBF POT for tha justicar Nosferatu:5
1x Dmitra Ilyanova 9 CEL FOR POT PRE obf justicar Brujah:5
1x Orlando Oriundus 9 AUS DOM THA obf bishop !Tremere:4
1x Undele 9 CEL FOR obf pre ser magaji Ishtarri:5
Library [90 cards]
Action [12]
2x Blood Bond // my playgroup is a bit too wallish
1x Kaymakli Barrier
9x Possession
Action Modifier [16]
3x Cloak the Gathering
4x Faceless Night
3x Forgotten Labyrinth
3x Lost in Crowds
2x Spying Mission
1x Voter Captivation // retrievable via Undele's ability
Action Modifier/Combat [3]
3x Swallowed by the Night
Equipment [4]
1x Flaming Candle
2x Helicopter
1x Sargon Fragment, The
Event [1]
1x Anthelios, The Red Star
Master [30]
3x Ashur Tablets // to get stealth cards back
3x Dreams of the Sphinx
1x Giant's Blood
1x Golconda: Inner Peace
1x Heidelberg Castle, Germany
1x Information Highway
1x Lilith's Blessing
8x Necromancy
3x Parthenon, The
1x Redeem the Lost Soul // For burned copies of Rafael de Corazón
1x Secure Haven
6x Villein
Political Action [18]
3x Alastor
1x Ancient Influence
1x Banishment // to be played over and over again via Undele's ability
10x Might of the Camarilla
1x Parity Shift
1x Political Stranglehold
1x Reins of Power
Reaction [6]
4x Deflection
2x My Enemy's Enemy
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26 Apr 2011 17:34 - 26 Apr 2011 19:20 #3790
by wastaz
Replied by wastaz on topic Re: Creating an inner circle theme deck
Damnans, now I really really wish that I had some might of the camarilla's (and some other random cards) so I could try that deck out. That looks like a completely hilarious deck to play
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