!trem/trem VIC THA AUS DOM g4/5
04 Oct 2013 05:11 #54756
by kombainas
Although I agree, that this needs tweaks, 10 bounce cards is quite on the high side. 10% combat package essentially guarantees, that the deck would not use the intercept without significant risk of the vampire. Against political, combat or wall predator this means 10 dead cards in the deck.
I'd go with 6 bounce cards in total and same number of wakes, and use the freed card slots for Barrens/Dreams of Sphinx.
Also, add +2xZhilla's and +1xInfo Highway, or drop them altogether, or reduce the deck at least to 75 cards to keep the current number of acceleration. Also add at least 2 more Villein.
Other points mentioned by others stand as well.
Sabbat. If this vampire's bleed is successful, he laughs manicly and untaps.
Replied by kombainas on topic Re: !trem/trem VIC THA AUS DOM g4/5
sb eat this stuff alive.
Although I agree, that this needs tweaks, 10 bounce cards is quite on the high side. 10% combat package essentially guarantees, that the deck would not use the intercept without significant risk of the vampire. Against political, combat or wall predator this means 10 dead cards in the deck.
I'd go with 6 bounce cards in total and same number of wakes, and use the freed card slots for Barrens/Dreams of Sphinx.
Also, add +2xZhilla's and +1xInfo Highway, or drop them altogether, or reduce the deck at least to 75 cards to keep the current number of acceleration. Also add at least 2 more Villein.
Other points mentioned by others stand as well.





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06 Oct 2013 01:17 #54819
by mirddes
Replied by mirddes on topic Re: !trem/trem VIC THA AUS DOM g4/5
to be honest this deck is a lie
id rather have hector in here than nickolai
walk of flames and shotgun ritual along with a portion of the existing meld with the land
2x mistress
4x malgorzata
2x rutor
5x hector trelane
i have no eyes of argus, no zillahs valley, no villien, no golcondo, no pentex, no giants blood. i have 1 information highway and i do have barrens.
no suddens, no dreams.
hector needs much intercept and probably the 4 regomotus i have
rush might not be needed.
i would like this deck to be toolbox and very very good.
how would removing zilla and info be good? would the deck not be too slow by that point?
I REALLY LIKE HECTOR TRELANE
and looking at $60 cards makes me sick.
for shotgun ritual+walk to be effective several shotgun is needed
several villien is needed
a few golconda is needed
this is hundred of dollars on a handful of cards.
print on demand and/or the abolishment of money cannot happen too soon.
clearly i also need either blood dolls or (better) vessels (which i have)
i am open to reducing the card count to 60/75
id rather have hector in here than nickolai
walk of flames and shotgun ritual along with a portion of the existing meld with the land
2x mistress
4x malgorzata
2x rutor
5x hector trelane
i have no eyes of argus, no zillahs valley, no villien, no golcondo, no pentex, no giants blood. i have 1 information highway and i do have barrens.
no suddens, no dreams.
hector needs much intercept and probably the 4 regomotus i have
rush might not be needed.
i would like this deck to be toolbox and very very good.
how would removing zilla and info be good? would the deck not be too slow by that point?
I REALLY LIKE HECTOR TRELANE
and looking at $60 cards makes me sick.
for shotgun ritual+walk to be effective several shotgun is needed
several villien is needed
a few golconda is needed
this is hundred of dollars on a handful of cards.
print on demand and/or the abolishment of money cannot happen too soon.
clearly i also need either blood dolls or (better) vessels (which i have)
i am open to reducing the card count to 60/75
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06 Oct 2013 02:08 #54824
by ReverendRevolver
Replied by ReverendRevolver on topic Re: !trem/trem VIC THA AUS DOM g4/5
PoD isnt happening.
Also, get some minion taps if you dont have villeins. We used to play vamps over capacity seven before kot. Im sure of it. You have rego motus? And its nt in this deck? Shame.
Honestly, you dont have alot of key stuff. Try running a Carna and Uta combat wall to see what efficient stuff like this does then build this later. I saw Carna and Uta due to thier easy availability, awesome intercept and rush, respectively, and the fact that you probably have all the cards to make that sort of deck work, whereas with this, you have the vamps and some ideas.
A better deck has more room for substituting the best options, as its more solid to start with. But an experimental 4 discipline all fattys deck needs all it can get, like villeins and eyes of argus, to be solid enough to win.
Also, get some minion taps if you dont have villeins. We used to play vamps over capacity seven before kot. Im sure of it. You have rego motus? And its nt in this deck? Shame.
Honestly, you dont have alot of key stuff. Try running a Carna and Uta combat wall to see what efficient stuff like this does then build this later. I saw Carna and Uta due to thier easy availability, awesome intercept and rush, respectively, and the fact that you probably have all the cards to make that sort of deck work, whereas with this, you have the vamps and some ideas.
A better deck has more room for substituting the best options, as its more solid to start with. But an experimental 4 discipline all fattys deck needs all it can get, like villeins and eyes of argus, to be solid enough to win.
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06 Oct 2013 02:12 #54825
by mirddes
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06 Oct 2013 02:45 #54828
by ReverendRevolver
Im on a phone, so i cant give you the link. Scroll down on the home page until you see Johannes actually having a state of the vekn type thing. Its under the Ragnarok storyline stuff.
Negotiations between wotc, ccp, and onebookshelf did not end in the necisary hamd shaking and paper signing that we needed for PoD to happen.
Thatsxis why Danse is now released. Id like to publicly apologize for what i did when i found out( barfight with a nun. She won. )But yea, no PoD on the horizon. We have to kill each other and harvest organs to buy rares still. Might change someday, hopefully soon, but no garuntee.
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PoD isnt happening.
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Im on a phone, so i cant give you the link. Scroll down on the home page until you see Johannes actually having a state of the vekn type thing. Its under the Ragnarok storyline stuff.
Negotiations between wotc, ccp, and onebookshelf did not end in the necisary hamd shaking and paper signing that we needed for PoD to happen.
Thatsxis why Danse is now released. Id like to publicly apologize for what i did when i found out( barfight with a nun. She won. )But yea, no PoD on the horizon. We have to kill each other and harvest organs to buy rares still. Might change someday, hopefully soon, but no garuntee.
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06 Oct 2013 17:33 #54849
by kombainas
Sabbat. If this vampire's bleed is successful, he laughs manicly and untaps.
Replied by kombainas on topic Re: !trem/trem VIC THA AUS DOM g4/5
Get some starters for the cards you lack. It might not be as effective as buying what you need, but you could get quite a few cards which you would put in many decks and more clans to play with.
I did so myself and had quite a few cards others in my playgroup lacked and contributed to collective pool as well. Not to mention, I have 10+ clans to build decks around. Getting a single starter box would cost a year expenditure on cards, but would be well worth it.
I did so myself and had quite a few cards others in my playgroup lacked and contributed to collective pool as well. Not to mention, I have 10+ clans to build decks around. Getting a single starter box would cost a year expenditure on cards, but would be well worth it.





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