Lasombra politic rules the night
13 May 2011 23:20 #4410
by Boris The Blade
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My kin against the world ? AKA the Ventrue principle: vote + untap + bleed = win.
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14 May 2011 08:20 #4423
by Pendargon
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@Randy - definitely interesting, and i see that we made a very similar deck 
I dislike having Marcus Vitel, for several reasons:
1) He is a camarilla prince, and therefore plays against the private audiences in the deck.
2) He is a 10-cap, and therefore cannot be govern out by Ambrosio
3) He is a prince of the highly, highly contested city (ok, so is Francisco Domingo, but he is at least a 9-cap lasombra)
4) I can't stand "I has faaaangs!!!" picture of Marcus (both of them:laugh: )
My kin against the world would maybe be excellent addition to the deck, though i am worried about the blood cost, as this deck generally should have blood issues, with villeins, and obt stealth costing blood. And, of course, dominate
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But a very, very interesting idea, i will try to fit 1-2 my kins against the world

I dislike having Marcus Vitel, for several reasons:
1) He is a camarilla prince, and therefore plays against the private audiences in the deck.
2) He is a 10-cap, and therefore cannot be govern out by Ambrosio
3) He is a prince of the highly, highly contested city (ok, so is Francisco Domingo, but he is at least a 9-cap lasombra)
4) I can't stand "I has faaaangs!!!" picture of Marcus (both of them:laugh: )
My kin against the world would maybe be excellent addition to the deck, though i am worried about the blood cost, as this deck generally should have blood issues, with villeins, and obt stealth costing blood. And, of course, dominate

But a very, very interesting idea, i will try to fit 1-2 my kins against the world








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14 May 2011 08:50 #4424
by Karo
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former NC for Croatia
Replied by Karo on topic Re: Lasobra politic rules the night
Almost teh same deck you proposed is in the TWDA ; So I think you got it good for the win 
Jonatan Sjöberg's Tournament Winning Deck
Deck Name : Lasse Royaltys
Author : Jonatan Sjöberg
Description :
Crypt [12 vampires]
4x Ambrosio Luis Moncada 10 DOM OBT POT PRE aus for cardinal Lasombra:2
2x Marcus Vitel 10 DOM FOR OBF OBT PRE prince Ventrue:3
2x Francisco Domingo 9 DOM OBT POT PRE pro archbishop Lasombra:2
2x Gratiano 8 DOM OBT obf pot priscus Lasombra:2
1x Alvaro, The Scion 9 OBT POT dom pre archbishop Lasombra:2
1x Antonio Delgado 9 DOM OBT POT tha archbishop Lasombra:2
Library [74 cards]
Action [8]
8x Govern the Unaligned
Action Modifier [22]
3x Conditioning
2x Perfect Paragon
2x Private Audience
3x Shadow Play
2x Shroud of Absence
3x Shroud of Night
2x Tenebrous Form
5x Voter Captivation
Combat [5]
5x Majesty
Master [21]
2x Dreams of the Sphinx
1x Elysian Fields
1x Giant's Blood
1x Information Highway
1x Misdirection
1x Monastery of Shadows
1x Pentex(TM) Subversion
1x Power Structure
6x Villein
6x Zillah's Valley
Political Action [14]
1x Anarchist Uprising
1x Ancient Influence
1x Ancilla Empowerment
1x Banishment
7x Kine Resources Contested
1x Neonate Breach
1x Political Stranglehold
1x Reins of Power
Reaction [4]
4x Deflection

Jonatan Sjöberg's Tournament Winning Deck
Deck Name : Lasse Royaltys
Author : Jonatan Sjöberg
Description :
Crypt [12 vampires]
4x Ambrosio Luis Moncada 10 DOM OBT POT PRE aus for cardinal Lasombra:2
2x Marcus Vitel 10 DOM FOR OBF OBT PRE prince Ventrue:3
2x Francisco Domingo 9 DOM OBT POT PRE pro archbishop Lasombra:2
2x Gratiano 8 DOM OBT obf pot priscus Lasombra:2
1x Alvaro, The Scion 9 OBT POT dom pre archbishop Lasombra:2
1x Antonio Delgado 9 DOM OBT POT tha archbishop Lasombra:2
Library [74 cards]
Action [8]
8x Govern the Unaligned
Action Modifier [22]
3x Conditioning
2x Perfect Paragon
2x Private Audience
3x Shadow Play
2x Shroud of Absence
3x Shroud of Night
2x Tenebrous Form
5x Voter Captivation
Combat [5]
5x Majesty
Master [21]
2x Dreams of the Sphinx
1x Elysian Fields
1x Giant's Blood
1x Information Highway
1x Misdirection
1x Monastery of Shadows
1x Pentex(TM) Subversion
1x Power Structure
6x Villein
6x Zillah's Valley
Political Action [14]
1x Anarchist Uprising
1x Ancient Influence
1x Ancilla Empowerment
1x Banishment
7x Kine Resources Contested
1x Neonate Breach
1x Political Stranglehold
1x Reins of Power
Reaction [4]
4x Deflection
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14 May 2011 09:10 #4426
by Pendargon
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Yeah, that is similar! 
Mine has more stealth, while he is really master heavy. How does he avoid master jam with 21 masters in a 74 cards without additional master phase is beyond me? I would really like to see author's comments... I am worried that i would jam with 17 masters

Mine has more stealth, while he is really master heavy. How does he avoid master jam with 21 masters in a 74 cards without additional master phase is beyond me? I would really like to see author's comments... I am worried that i would jam with 17 masters








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14 May 2011 09:17 #4427
by Karo
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former NC for Croatia
Replied by Karo on topic Re: Lasobra politic rules the night
True I would never make a 20+ master cards in a deck without a Parthenon or a vamp with additional Master phases in a 75 or less cards.
Also might be good to include Dia de los Muertos. It's a good finishing card.
Also might be good to include Dia de los Muertos. It's a good finishing card.
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14 May 2011 09:45 #4428
by Pendargon
Replied by Pendargon on topic Re: Lasobra politic rules the night
See, this is the problem which i have with making this deck : if i would put all the good stuff, i would end up with 120+ card library
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Add zaire river, mylan, dia de los muertos, my kin, some freakdrives, then maybe black forest base, another pentex and banishment, power structure, monastery of shadows, fear of mekhet (to kill justicars and IC's). But then it screws the card ratios, so you have to have more stealth, and more governs, and more combat ends. Also, a far mastery or entrancement, or maybe 1-2 graverobbing, maybe 1-2 surprising entombment, then, a secure heaven can be a lifesaver...
The list of options seems endless... That is why i am asking for advice B) . What to take out, what to put in?

Add zaire river, mylan, dia de los muertos, my kin, some freakdrives, then maybe black forest base, another pentex and banishment, power structure, monastery of shadows, fear of mekhet (to kill justicars and IC's). But then it screws the card ratios, so you have to have more stealth, and more governs, and more combat ends. Also, a far mastery or entrancement, or maybe 1-2 graverobbing, maybe 1-2 surprising entombment, then, a secure heaven can be a lifesaver...
The list of options seems endless... That is why i am asking for advice B) . What to take out, what to put in?







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