file tzimisce wall

23 Apr 2021 17:51 #102129 by Shukran
tzimisce wall was created by Shukran
hello,
i started playing vtes 6 months ago, found this archetype and felt in love with it.

i started copying the "sascha 20 horrid form" deck, slowly modding it to my preferences.

my local gaming group consist of

lasombra political s&b
stanislava political s&b
gangrel combat
kyasid s&b
eurobrujah
cybele combo
plus preconstructed 5th edition and some other s&b decks.

im fine with losing but considering eurobrujah outcombat me and every s&b endlessly combat ends me (stanislava more in everything) i modded it to try to cover all the nasty things i may meet

Crypt (12 cards; Capacity min=4 max=8 avg=6.)
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1x Elizabeth Westcott            5 ani cel vic AUS          Tzimisce:3
1x Kazimir Savostin              7 ani pot AUS VIC          Tzimisce:3
1x Lolita Houston                4 aus VIC                  Tzimisce:2
1x Meshenka                      8 ANI AUS VIC              Tzimisce:2
1x Rose, The                     5 aus PRE VIC              Tzimisce:3
4x Sascha Vykos, The Angel of Caine (ADV)8 ani dom AUS THA VIC      Tzimisce:2
1x Caliban                       6 ANI AUS VIC              Tzimisce:2
1x Corine Marcon                 6 ani AUS VIC              Tzimisce:2
1x Devin Bisley                  5 vic ANI AUS              Tzimisce:2

Library: 89 cards

Master (19 cards)
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1x Erciyes Fragments, The
2x Fame
1x Library Hunting Ground
1x Archon Investigation
1x Powerbase: Chicago
1x Powerbase: Montreal
1x Rack, The
4x Rötschreck
2x Smiling Jack, The Anarch
4x Vessel
1x WMRH Talk Radio

Action (6 cards)
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2x Army of Rats
2x Under Siege
2x Abbot

Combat (21 cards)
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7x Breath of the Dragon
14x Chiropteran Marauder

Retainer (6 cards)
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4x Revenant
2x Corpse Balloon

Equipment (2 cards)
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1x Heart of Nizchetus
1x Bowl of Convergence

Reaction (35 cards)
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4x Enhanced Senses
4x Eyes of Argus
2x Fast Reaction
3x Forced Awakening
4x On the Qui Vive
3x Precognition
2x Spirit's Touch
5x Telepathic Misdirection
4x Cats' Guidance
4x Eagle's Sight


i think i broke the deck. need someone to help me smoothing it.

hope i didnt broke any rules.

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23 Apr 2021 18:25 #102130 by Shukran
Replied by Shukran on topic tzimisce wall
How do you intend to oust?
fame / army of rats / smiling jack / torpor vampires

How do you intend to keep from being ousted?
walling / deflecting / raising blood from masters

What do you want your ready region to look like (ie, how many guys are you planning on getting out)?
i would like it to have 3-4 vampire (1-2 AUX / VIC rest VIC / aux mainly)

What do you want your average turn to look like?
getting blood from villeins and powerbase. waiting to intercept dangerous stuff

What's your metagame like? How do your opponents play?
stealth and bleed mostly trying to surpass my intercept or form of mist, otherwise dealing with other players to destroy my smiling jacks / deflecting on me other bleeds

What problems have you observed with the deck in play?
i get my hand stuck sometimes with too low intercept, sometimes no combat cards

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23 Apr 2021 19:07 #102131 by smeeag
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If you meta is heavy on S&B, then consider increasing bounce package.
Not only couple more Telepatics, but also 4-5 My Enemies Enemy will help. You can swap Precognition/Spirit's Touch for it.

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23 Apr 2021 20:53 - 23 Apr 2021 20:54 #102132 by Rynkle
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Since Sascha is your star, maybe you can switch a couple of Rotschreck for 2 Magic of the Smith ?
Last edit: 23 Apr 2021 20:54 by Rynkle.

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23 Apr 2021 20:55 #102133 by Shukran
Replied by Shukran on topic tzimisce wall

Since Shascha is your star, maybe you can switch a couple of Rotschreck for 2 Magic of the Smith

 

sasha WAS when i was playing 20 horrid. now im asking for help to modify my deck to fit its tool role, as wall. . .mission impossible ok, but let's try
 

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23 Apr 2021 21:38 #102134 by Hakuron
Replied by Hakuron on topic tzimisce wall
Generally speaking, your deck is already okay.
Bear in mind that VTES is not a game where you can force a gamewin only by using/playing the best cards; you have to play the table and the players. For example, a wall usually wins by blocking key actions, not every single action.

Regarding your deck:
If card-flow is an issue, consider cards like Dreams of the Sphinx and Aura Reading.
If you miss ousting power, add cards that increase your bleeds or use more bounces (as already suggested). In my opinion, Dragonbound is a helpful card for every combat wall.

Maybe you want to try out a crypt with more vampires having all disciplines on superior level. 
And maybe you want to put in some cards that protect/refresh your pool resources.

Keep on trying, the path to victory is one of persistance.
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