Card idea: City Archives - The Deep Levels

Juggernaut1981 wrote:

Constant Immortal Grapples?
Jacko Grapples, 2x H1 (or more), Taste, Take up Grapple.
Range is close, Grapple, 2x H1 (but probably more)...

That sounds fairly broken to me.

Not significantly more broken than permanent Signposts, Bum's Rushes, additional strikes etc. Grapple is just one more card in the chain. In a combat deck, it doesn't matter which part of the transient chain you replace with a permanent effect, the end result is pretty much the same: increased consistency. This card basically bolts a combat special on one of your minions once per turn. Compared to usual combat specials, it has the huge advantage of versatility and the huge downside of being a unique master (!) in a !Brujah combat deck. It's a great 1-of for a pretty weak deck category.

Actually, I'd prefer it to be a near-auto-include in decks than not. If its going to be created, I'd want it to appear on every table and be contested regularly. I would want that thought to come into the card's design.

Read me carefully Ankha, I am not against card recursion. I am against the idea that any one clan should be given the tools to basically control the contents of their library and/or hand limitlessly for the remainder of the game. The previous version I had would be limited in the early part of the game by the size of the ashheap; it is also susceptible to interference by things such as Trochomancy. The hand customisation is limited in the beginning, but does not allow for the "fishing for the card I need but haven't seen" like you get from Spirit Summoning Chamber. It still costs resources and it is a once per 'round the table' effect combined with the fact that you still have to discard afterwards.

EDIT: Also, this card doesn't 'incease the size of the library' but allows you to effectively rearrange the contents of the library. It give you the ability to slightly customise the hand/library without increasing its effective size. 3 Ashur Tablets effectively increases a library by 12 cards (12 to library, one to hand and discard one has no net effect). This card forces you to exchange a card in your hand for a card in your ashheap which leaves you with the same sized library, you are in effect discarding resources you may need later. WMO + the card designed in the other thread results in +1 library size every turn and immediately drawing the card into your hand. //EDIT

The thread you have brought up allowed for cards to be moved from the bottom of the library to the top, which when used with Waste Management Operations allowed the hand to be customised immediately without any loss of cards to the ashheap and with few ways for it to be prevented. I have a BIG problem with that.