file Card Idea: The Night is Young

24 Apr 2012 19:45 #28614 by jamesatzephyr

What about short-leash bleed? Untap your grand prey before bleeding for 5, have an intercept location and/or change of target to reduce the pressure on them when you are inevitably bleeding them. I could see Giovanni and Followers of Set making good use of a card like this.


Giovanni power-bleed might conceivably be interested in it for a responsible bleed angle, but the Followers of Set have a better option in Spying Mission - have the bleed succeed, then wipe it out and store up some +bleed for when your grand-prey is your prey.

For the Giovanni, if the grand-prey can declare any sort of block (i.e. at least one minion is untapped - this card could be upping that to two, or from two to three etc.), Tangle Atropos' Hand is potentially more useful for responsible power-bleed. It cancels the action, thus escaping the No Repeat taint, thus allowing you to bleed again. Relatively hard to get hold of, though, and possibly sitting in your Lasombra stealth-bleed deck anyhow.

There's also the school of thought that says "If you're going to bleed irresponsibly, be as irresponsible as you can." :-)

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25 Apr 2012 03:47 #28630 by jAvel

If it was something like:
Untap a minion; their controller may cancel this card by burning one pool.
Alternatively, move two blood from the Blood Bank to a vampire; any Methuselah may cancel this card by burning one pool.

Svadharma, Master, Ravnos
Master. Move 2 blood from the blood bank to a ready Ravnos.

so your "move two blood" makes this card even more useless.
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I'll try to think about Event type variant:

The Night is Young
Event
Every methuselah may use master phase action as out-of-turn master to untap a minion he/she controls. If he/she does so, his/her hand side is reduced by 1 until the end of turn.
Burn this event if a Gehenna is played.

* variation: make it usable during your turn.

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25 Apr 2012 05:21 #28635 by jamesatzephyr

If it was something like:
Untap a minion; their controller may cancel this card by burning one pool.
Alternatively, move two blood from the Blood Bank to a vampire; any Methuselah may cancel this card by burning one pool.

Svadharma, Master, Ravnos
Master. Move 2 blood from the blood bank to a ready Ravnos.

so your "move two blood" makes this card even more useless.


Underpowered cards that don't get played don't - and certainly shouldn't - block off other cards being better than them. That's just an avenue for design hell - you make a mistake 6 years ago and can never ever do anything better in that arena, ever, for fear of making an underpowered card even more useless.

Svadharma also doesn't allow other Methuselahs to screw with you, mind.

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25 Apr 2012 16:03 #28692 by Ohlmann


If it was something like:
Untap a minion; their controller may cancel this card by burning one pool.
Alternatively, move two blood from the Blood Bank to a vampire; any Methuselah may cancel this card by burning one pool.
...then maybe I could see it making the cut.


I love this version which solve my concern about the card. For the alternate use, I would limit the cancelling to the prey, in the hope to create interaction between your prey and your predator.

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