file Card idea: Scent the Undead

07 Jun 2012 07:33 #31789 by Ankha
Name: Scent the Undead
Cardtype: Action
Discipline: Protean
[pro] (D) Bleed and put this card on a ready vampire controlled by the Methuselah who is bled. Vampires with Protean have +1 bleed against this vampire's controller. This vampire may burn this card to go to torpor.
[PRO] (D) Enter combat with a ready vampire controlled by another Methuselah.


Thoughts?

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07 Jun 2012 07:57 #31791 by agzocgud
Stackable? Seems crazy-strong.

Overkill is highly underrated. You know, like in computor games and such.

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07 Jun 2012 08:30 #31792 by Juggernaut1981
I'd be tempted to instead make it at more like Unholy Penance at superior and a 'burn to rush' at inferior.

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07 Jun 2012 08:38 #31793 by Ankha

Stackable? Seems crazy-strong.

I don't know. 1/ it's a bleed for 1 2/ the card is put on the minion only if the action is successful 3/ the vampire can burn all the copies on him anytime by going to torpor (which can be done during the controller's turn for immediate rescue). 4/ only vampires with protean have a +bleed, meaning they probably won't have a big ousting discipline.

I'd be tempted to instead make it at more like Unholy Penance at superior and a 'burn to rush' at inferior.

Unclear. By choosing to put the rush at superior, I avoided a "weenie pro agg" effect which can already be achieved with plain Bum's Rush. I wanted to strengthen a weenie-pro bleed and fight concept.

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07 Jun 2012 08:51 - 07 Jun 2012 12:30 #31794 by Ohlmann

2/ the card is put on the minion only if the action is successful 3/ the vampire can burn all the copies on him anytime by going to torpor (which can be done during the controller's turn for immediate rescue). 4/ only vampires with protean have a +bleed, meaning they probably won't have a big ousting discipline.


The kiev circle say hi. They almost all have pro, they have a strong bleeding modifier, they can hope to stealth throught, and they can be 4 vampire pretty easily.

I would limit to one per methuselah because usually it won't hamper the card, and it would avoid being bled for 10+ in one turn.

Note that you can put the card on differents vampires of your prey.

In the card itself, I find it lovely for city gangrel (and kiev circle), with some use for other clan (another reason to play protean toreador ?). The fact that Flesh of marble is very good against celegun and animalism combat make protean a good choice anyway.
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07 Jun 2012 09:52 #31795 by FrançoisV
Am I reading your idea wrong or is the inferior version a superior Madman's Quill on steroids, for a non-bleed discipline ?

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