file Outbreak! - Harbingers of Skulls

23 Mar 2015 11:10 #70007 by chrisn101
There's a "Thanks" button but no "Like", so posting to say: Like.

I'll slip that into my HoSk playtest deck when I start with the other cards next month.

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23 Mar 2015 12:14 #70009 by Whisker
Ugh...
As written, this stacks and is harder to remove than AoR. Need to add a methuselah may only have one Outbreak or something similar. What is function of "you still control this card", if removing the counters is undirected action?

As an action...

Outbreak! v2
Action
Harbingers
+1 Stealth (D) action.
Choose a Methuselah and put this card in their ready region; you control still this card. Put 1 counter plus 1 per mortal ally controlled by the chosen Methuselah. The Methuselah with this card burns 1 pool in their discard phase and vampires they control gain 1 less blood from hunt actions. Non-mortal minions may burn 1 counter from this card as an undirected action.
Alternatively, you may use this card to put 2 counters on any Outbreak! in play.

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23 Mar 2015 15:27 - 23 Mar 2015 15:28 #70012 by jamesatzephyr

Ugh...
As written, this stacks and is harder to remove than AoR. Need to add a methuselah may only have one Outbreak or something similar. What is function of "you still control this card", if removing the counters is undirected action?


It's potentially important to know who controls the card, for situations such as being ousted - does that nasty card stay in play or not?

However, the "you still control this card" phrasing is normally only found on cards that are put in play on something another player controls, such as putting a minion card on a minion they control or on a location. By default, minion cards are controlled by the controller of the thing they're on (if they're on something). So it doesn't seem to be adding anything here - why put the card in their ready region at all?
Last edit: 23 Mar 2015 15:28 by jamesatzephyr.

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23 Mar 2015 20:12 - 23 Mar 2015 20:14 #70019 by Juggernaut1981

However, the "you still control this card" phrasing is normally only found on cards that are put in play on something another player controls, such as putting a minion card on a minion they control or on a location. By default, minion cards are controlled by the controller of the thing they're on (if they're on something). So it doesn't seem to be adding anything here - why put the card in their ready region at all?

Reduce confusion if you want to target two or three players, the person experiencing the Outbreak! is the one with the card. Also to make the Outbreak!s vanish with the Methuselah who put them out.

@Whisker:
Yeah, it probably should have a "One per Methuselah".

Outbreak! v3
Action
Harbingers
+1 stealth (D) action.
Put this card in another Methuselah's ready region who does not have a ready copy of Outbreak!; you still control this card. When this card is put in play it gains 1 counter plus 1 per mortal ally controlled by the target Methuselah. The Methuselah with this card burns 1 pool in their discard phase and vampires they control gain 1 less blood from hunt actions. Non-mortal minions may burn 1 counter from this card as an undirected action. Alternatively, you may use this card to put 2 counters on any Outbreak! in play.

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Last edit: 23 Mar 2015 20:14 by Juggernaut1981.

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