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Submission - Knowing the Masses (disciplineless bleed for bishop/primogen)
28 Nov 2012 13:04 - 28 Nov 2012 13:05 #41942
by Ankha
Name: Knowing the Masses
Cardtype: Action
Requires a titled vampire.
Bleed at +1 bleed, with an additional +1 bleed if this vampire's title is worth 1 vote.
Art notes: -
World of Darkness reference: None. Bishops and Primogen can have special knowledge no other have.
Game references: Computer Hacking, Intidimidation
How does this card address a compelling game need? Bishops and Primogen are often neglected due to their lack of votes or the cards they don't give access to. By granting them a powerful bleed action (equivalent to an Intimidation but with no discipline requirement) they can be included in decks more easily. Some independant vampires may benefit of it too (eg. Randall) but most of them already have a bleed discipline anyway.
Created by: Ankha
Cardtype: Action
Requires a titled vampire.

Art notes: -
World of Darkness reference: None. Bishops and Primogen can have special knowledge no other have.
Game references: Computer Hacking, Intidimidation
How does this card address a compelling game need? Bishops and Primogen are often neglected due to their lack of votes or the cards they don't give access to. By granting them a powerful bleed action (equivalent to an Intimidation but with no discipline requirement) they can be included in decks more easily. Some independant vampires may benefit of it too (eg. Randall) but most of them already have a bleed discipline anyway.
Created by: Ankha
Last edit: 28 Nov 2012 13:05 by Ankha.
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28 Nov 2012 14:53 #41945
by Ohlmann
Replied by Ohlmann on topic Re: Submission - Knowing the Masses (disciplineless bleed for bishop/primogen)
It's uninspiring, which does not mean it would be useless. Still, here and now I don't see a reason to put it into a deck.
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28 Nov 2012 14:56 #41946
by ReverendRevolver
Replied by ReverendRevolver on topic Re: Submission - Knowing the Masses (disciplineless bleed for bishop/primogen)
Bishops and primogen still suck even with access to this tho. bishops with pre can call and even pass templar , but other than that, all either title means is "this almost interesting vampire cannot go anarch. they Will never matter in a referendum. oh, and they can play redlist on random younger vamps. yay. "
I do think they need support, but I think block denial and intercept on the same card is what it would take to make them suck less. if they had that, this card could be hot.
on upside, its not that broken. unless you have an anarch Randall or Danielle Diron , anyone who bleeds for +2 already had access to a +2 bleed action if they had a way to pump it to 6-7. (Meaning pre with aire of elation, or Dom and conditioning, leverage pending , so anarch 1 voters with monkey wrench are the only ones who gain new oomph, and if you anarch secession one of them, you've earned a right to do that)
Seems ok, and addresses a game need, I just don't think it solves it.
I do think they need support, but I think block denial and intercept on the same card is what it would take to make them suck less. if they had that, this card could be hot.
on upside, its not that broken. unless you have an anarch Randall or Danielle Diron , anyone who bleeds for +2 already had access to a +2 bleed action if they had a way to pump it to 6-7. (Meaning pre with aire of elation, or Dom and conditioning, leverage pending , so anarch 1 voters with monkey wrench are the only ones who gain new oomph, and if you anarch secession one of them, you've earned a right to do that)
Seems ok, and addresses a game need, I just don't think it solves it.
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28 Nov 2012 15:45 #41948
by wesile
Replied by wesile on topic Re: Submission - Knowing the Masses (disciplineless bleed for bishop/primogen)
Why not something like:
Card Name

Bleed at +1 Bleed.
If this acting minion is a titled vampire Bleed at +2 Bleed.
Card Name


If this acting minion is a titled vampire Bleed at +2 Bleed.
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28 Nov 2012 16:05 #41949
by Ohlmann
Replied by Ohlmann on topic Re: Submission - Knowing the Masses (disciplineless bleed for bishop/primogen)
So any inner circle can bleed for 4 or 5 with only one disciplineless card ?
More importantly, this card would be playable at +2 by princes. PRince just don't need the boost in any way or shape. Being a prince is already pretty much equivalent to
and allow to parity shift away.
More importantly, this card would be playable at +2 by princes. PRince just don't need the boost in any way or shape. Being a prince is already pretty much equivalent to

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28 Nov 2012 16:38 #41950
by Ankha
Replied by Ankha on topic Re: Submission - Knowing the Masses (disciplineless bleed for bishop/primogen)
It's uninspiring, which does not mean it would be useless. Still, here and now I don't see a reason to put it into a deck.
This can be seen as a start.Bishops and primogen still suck even with access to this tho. .
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