[Submission] Cannibal (Nagaraja ghoul)

I would agree that this version seem much more balanced. It could even be 2 bleed, or 1 bleed 1 strength 1 life. Even if it's still reasonably easily graftable by a non-nagaraja deck. (after all, adding a 3 to 5 cap who can bounce bleed don't seem too hard)

This last version seems more like a cool card.

Yes there is good thing to do with it but it will not break the game. (no more than decapitate or anything similar).

And yes, shambler with le dinh to and asguresh deck will want to play some copy of it. Even Shalmath decapitate but it is better to design cards with some use I think ^^

Ankha wrote:

I suppose you think Anathema should be banned then, right?

You appear to have gone from "I don't think I'd want this card added to the game as is" to "OMG BAN SHIT JUST BAN EVERYTHING OMG BAN BAN BAN BAN BAN LET'S GO MENTAL AND BAN ANYTHING THAT'S EVEN SLIGHTLY LIKE MY CARD BECAUSE OMG MY CARD IS AWESOME SO IF YOU HATE IT YOU HATE ME AND THE GAME AND OMG BAN BAN BAN BAN BAN".

For a start, you're not even beginning to address that running a deck that combines good vote-push with good combat is tricky. They can be excellent decks when they work well, but they are very difficult to get right becauase of - for example - delicate card flow issues. Cannibal does not have delicate card flow issues.

Having a vote to pass increases interactivity rather than reducing it. You can block the vote (as you could block the recruit). You could play Delaying Tactics. Your opponent might have significant political power of their own, and it may be in at least one other Methuselah's interests to stop you gaining 6, 8, 10 pool. (For example, you may be Anathema-ing your prey's vampire, but your predator doesn't want you to have that pool. Or you Anathema a predator's vampire, but your prey would rather you didn't suddenly have 10 extra pool to bring out minions or whatever to stomp him with.) Delaying Tactics is often rather popular. None of this applies to Cannibal.

Anathema goes on one vampire: "put this card on that vampire." So it may be possible for me to block the rush of that vampire, throw cannon fodder in the way, that sort of thing. So yeah, you might get to blow up Ryder if you can rush him, but between an untapped Robert Price, a Wake, and a lucky redraw of another Wake, I thwart you for a while. You have to hurt the Anathema-ed vampire. Cannibal doesn't, any vampire dying is fair game for it.

Anathema applies only in combat: "is reduced to zero blood in combat". Cannibal doesn't.

Really, if you wanted to pick a card that I absolutely must want to ban, I'm not sure you could have picked a worse comparison than Anathema, with all its interesting tentacles.

Ankha wrote:

If you don't, we compare the pro and con of each cards.

Or rather, we don't present other people's concerns as being bizarre, hyperbolic strawmen with no relation to the opinion they're actually presenting.