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25 Oct 2013 07:19 #55666 by Ashur

But then don't use the Community's resources and visibility for your own private things.

"Private things"?! Hrmm. I second this.

Is the design team free to use this idea? Of course!
Why is this an issue?

Because the PCK are assholes?

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25 Oct 2013 10:16 #55675 by Brum

But then don't use the Community's resources and visibility for your own private things.

"Private things"?! Hrmm. I second this.

Is the design team free to use this idea? Of course!
Why is this an issue?

Because the PCK are assholes?


No, the Design Team are, because they resist the need to have Graham Gottesman erratted to have Blackhorse Tanner's special.

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25 Oct 2013 10:45 - 25 Oct 2013 10:45 #55677 by extrala

Because the PCK are ****?

Be civil! Be polite!
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25 Oct 2013 16:01 #55690 by Ashur

Because the PCK are ****?

Be civil! Be polite!

Sorry. It´s just that I got really pissed when I heared that good stuff from Danse Macabre was stopped because PCK threatened some kind of legal action (God know what that would be though, as I can´t see VEKN as a legal body). With that kind of attitude going around, one cannot cannot know what one can say at about cards at this forum anymore, and that´s sad.

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25 Oct 2013 16:59 - 25 Oct 2013 17:12 #55693 by KevinM

With that kind of attitude going around, one cannot cannot know what one can say at about cards at this forum anymore, and that´s sad.

One can say whatever one wishes to say about anything on VEKN.net, including all card submissions from all sources.

The fact that PCK in particular has acted badly in the past towards the VEKN doesn't mean that anything PCK puts onto VEKN.net will not be used as a card idea in an official VEKN card set. From what has been stated, the issue appeared to be the first set of cards which PCK felt that they were involved in designing, not any future VEKN sets.

If someone put a card submission onto VEKN.net that was excellent, the VEKN Design Team should use that card idea, since the forum we are now on is expressly understood by all (including PCK) that to be a fan-card forum. And even if print-on-demand happened and the VEKN began to profit, no one could legitimately or legally claim that they should profit from their fan-card which was introduced here, because there is a pinned-post at the top of this forum that clearly states, "9. Any submissions are considered the property of the V:EKN. No compensation. No rights."

So: No amount of (C) The VEKN Can't Ever Profit From This Card is going to help PCK or anyone else in a court of law.

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25 Oct 2013 17:30 #55694 by Ashur

"9. Any submissions are considered the property of the V:EKN. No compensation. No rights."

Although I like what you are saying Kevin, I still don´t understand what kind of legal body (Juristische Person, Personne morale, whatever you call it) the VEKN is, so I don´t understand how anyone should be able to sue anyone for anything. (According to this site the VEKN is a trademark held by somebody - I guess CCP?)

But I´m no lawyer, and this is off topic, sorry.

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