[submission]

Name: Sublime Sugestion
Cardtype: Reaction
Cost: -
Capacity: -
Discipline:
Clan: -
Only usable on a referendum. Only one Sublime Sugestion may be played in an action.
Tap this vampire to force a Vampire to abstains for vote. This can change thats vampire's votes.
As above, and that vampire takes an unpreventable damage at the end of the action.

Flavor text: working on this... I have the flavor, but can't find the proper page. It's a discurse Francisco Domingo de Polonia speaks to another sabbat, while pressing his hand. It's on a clan novel of the Eye of Hazimel books.

Art notes: A man, smiling and appearing to hold, gently, the hand of another one, who's suffering with the grapple.

World of Darkness reference: Again, the clan novel I'm trying to remember the page. Also, every use of potence as a non combat discipline.

How does this card address a compelling game need?:

We all know Potence is considered de major combat discipline. But, far than that, it is the surpass of the limits a simple human can't reach. Despite the obvious combat type of the Brujah clan, other clans, more political than the rablle. Lasombra are the best political, and have potence, as the Giovanni. Using the brute force as the intimidation key to force weaker vampires to act and work just as you want is the archetype of the bully, and I really don't know why we never had a card like this before.

Also, the combat foccused decks could use this card as a good defense against vote dedicated decks. A Nosferatu combat deck, wich can't use even Yawp Court could use this card to defend them against the odious Toreador and their racist "I vote, you don't".

Created by: Vitor Ferreira

Yes, and no.

Iron glare gain votes, this cancel votes. Plus, Iron Glare is an action modifier, and this is a reaction. The card wasn't created to help vote decks, but to balance them with bruise or secondary potence decks.

And, as a side note, if you played live actions for a while you can affirm that potence really Solves everything Hahaha.

Alasteir,
For Brujah, there is already Scalpel Tongue ()
For Giovanni, there is... well like they really do vote decks.
For Nosferatu, there is... Animal Magnetism for starters but also good old fashioned Animalism Combat and Rush.
For Guruhi, they already run Presence, they should be able to pass a vote. Or Animalism Combat to solve their problem cross-table.
For Trujah, there is Quicksilver Contemplation
For Lasombra, there is G2 Lasombra for Voting... otherwise what ARE you doing??? Oh and a few dominate cards.

Referendum reactions that are not Delaying Tactics suck: they are dead cards if nobody plays votes and even when you can play them, they are useless half of the time.

When my progeny asked for a VTES card to chew on, I gave him a Dread Gaze.

Non-existant user wrote:

Referendum reactions that are not Delaying Tactics suck: they are dead cards if nobody plays votes and even when you can play them, they are useless half of the time.

Very much this. At the very least, it would need to have some sort of non-political option to be worthwhile. Say: [pot] Enter combat with a ready minion. / [POT] Some sort of anti-politics thing.


And even then, as Ankha says, it's not really great to use Potence's physical capabilities as a way to justify everything. If you bleed me that hard, I will hurt you, so Potence gets a good bleed reducer. If you do anything, I will hurt you, so Potence gets a card canceller. If you don't give me all your stuff, I will hurt you, so Potence gets to steal all your equipment. And so on.