Constantinople by night
09 Jul 2014 15:15 #63587
by jamesatzephyr
For most practical purposes, Ian Forestal has many, many, many disciplines.
At a certain point, having more disciplines stops being that exciting because it's moderately hard to use them effectively, unless you have a cohort of vampires in the same arena who all have the same disciplines e.g. the 10 cap with ANI AUS DOM VIC pro obt, the 9 cap with ANI AUS dom obt vic pro, the 11 cap with ANI AUS DOM VIC PRO OBT etc. So you probably don't do that. A star vampire whose supporters can't (easily) cycle all the relevant cards is in a somewhat precarious position - if you rush/banish/Pentex my star, my supporters can play some of the cards but not cycle them perfectly.
Also, looking at it, the discipline combo isn't super awesome. From a combat angle, CEL/CHI/pot/for is a bit weird. Chimerstry out a Flamethrower and Blur with it... but then what's the Potence doing? CEL/PRE/pot/for isn't terrible for mixing with some Brujah decks (although who knows what Group 7 would look like), but at 11 capacity you'd probably prefer a bit more. From a more bleed-y/vote-y point of view, Chimerstry is decent for stealth, though it's not Obfuscate.
Overall, comparing with - say - Harrod and Gwendolyn, they have 10 points of disciplines, +2 bleed, a better title, and arguably a better sect, and still don't see much play, so I don't think that 12 points of disciplines, +1 bleed, and a decent title is that outlandish on an 11 cap, if the special ability can be kept under control. (And the rewrite seems somewhat better from that point of view.)
Replied by jamesatzephyr on topic Re: Constantinople by night
And this makes it only the second vampire after Helena adv. with 7 disciplines, not to mention, only merged Helena could match him at 5 superiors. Bit much, eh?
For most practical purposes, Ian Forestal has many, many, many disciplines.
At a certain point, having more disciplines stops being that exciting because it's moderately hard to use them effectively, unless you have a cohort of vampires in the same arena who all have the same disciplines e.g. the 10 cap with ANI AUS DOM VIC pro obt, the 9 cap with ANI AUS dom obt vic pro, the 11 cap with ANI AUS DOM VIC PRO OBT etc. So you probably don't do that. A star vampire whose supporters can't (easily) cycle all the relevant cards is in a somewhat precarious position - if you rush/banish/Pentex my star, my supporters can play some of the cards but not cycle them perfectly.
Also, looking at it, the discipline combo isn't super awesome. From a combat angle, CEL/CHI/pot/for is a bit weird. Chimerstry out a Flamethrower and Blur with it... but then what's the Potence doing? CEL/PRE/pot/for isn't terrible for mixing with some Brujah decks (although who knows what Group 7 would look like), but at 11 capacity you'd probably prefer a bit more. From a more bleed-y/vote-y point of view, Chimerstry is decent for stealth, though it's not Obfuscate.
Overall, comparing with - say - Harrod and Gwendolyn, they have 10 points of disciplines, +2 bleed, a better title, and arguably a better sect, and still don't see much play, so I don't think that 12 points of disciplines, +1 bleed, and a decent title is that outlandish on an 11 cap, if the special ability can be kept under control. (And the rewrite seems somewhat better from that point of view.)
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09 Jul 2014 17:51 #63589
by kombainas
Sabbat. If this vampire's bleed is successful, he laughs manicly and untaps.
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My bad, the point I was trying to make, that a lot of disciplines is not OPed, at least not in this case. This is simply unnecessary = bad design choice. If they were canon, ok, but their number rose up in the process. I'd rather have her have Eze-like untap than for for exact same reason...
Also, the anti-Ven/Tzi silver bullet is way too strong. Whenever I play Louhi
Also, the anti-Ven/Tzi silver bullet is way too strong. Whenever I play Louhi
my predator sighs "f*ck". If Tzi/Ven would see this as prey, they should simply leave the game. This vamp has 11 unconditional cancels hitting the table, more with hunts. Predator should offer a VP at very least for anyone offering to dunk Micheal, and he could do nothing to provide that VP until Michael is defeated. This card simply decreases interactivity.(Once each turn, if Louhi is ready, she may burn 1 blood to cancel an action card played by a vampire controlled by your predator as it is played (the acting minion doesn't tap).)





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17 Aug 2014 23:17 #64953
by Wand
Archbishop of Vitória
Replied by Wand on topic Re: Constantinople by night
loved it. Whatever choice of powers / disciplines. I asked so bad for mikael. Too bad he won't be at the mythical vamps storyline.
Btw, I did a card submission from constantinople by night a while ago. I think it was the citadel of petrion for gangrel.
Btw, I did a card submission from constantinople by night a while ago. I think it was the citadel of petrion for gangrel.
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18 Aug 2014 13:25 #64965
by Lech
Try:

Sabbat.Black Hand Shakar: Lech loathe ranged weapons. Once each action, he may burn 1 blood to become Camarilla Prince of Krakow until the end of the action.
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PS: Does anyone know how to modify the size of the image. A tried following the tips for using BBCode but doesn't seem to work here.
Try:
[img size=250]http://dnn.vtes.net/Portals/17/cards/3212/Crypt/card201478215435.jpg[/img]






Sabbat.Black Hand Shakar: Lech loathe ranged weapons. Once each action, he may burn 1 blood to become Camarilla Prince of Krakow until the end of the action.
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