[Submission] Lasombra & Sabbat cards
07 Mar 2015 12:10 - 07 Mar 2015 18:29 #69722
by Lech
Ok, no point defending obviously broken design, cheap cycleable card that effectively say "you can't maneuver and burn 2 blood, oh and +stealth at inferior IS broken. I'll redo it. (EDIT: REDONE). That said, there are still cards that bring more value, like Torn Signpost with blur or AfB with CC, pre-nerf version exceled only in combats where opponent striked/maneuvered multiple times per turn.
It was too good in former form, as it effectively always get 2 damage value at superior, sometimes even 4 or 6 which is more than disarm, one of the most blood-effective card in the game (0 for 5 - 2 for rescue, 3 for regenerating arm) and this card even synergized with disarm.
Now it's more similar to wave of lethargy, except it affect allies and don't cost blood (and isn't affecting vampires with
)(not affecting presses either!). Wave of Lethargy is wallpaper card.

Sabbat.Black Hand Shakar: Lech loathe ranged weapons. Once each action, he may burn 1 blood to become Camarilla Prince of Krakow until the end of the action.
Replied by Lech on topic Re: [Submission] Lasombra & Sabbat cards
Well, i can see how it's better in this regard than simple POT combat that don't have many ways to maneuver back. On the other hand you have to use 6 cap to get POT OBT at least (6 cap, 7 cap, 7 cap, 8 cap, 8 cap, then 9+ cap) with no special rules toward combat.
But this isn't compared to simple POT combat with no maneuvers. This is compared to obf/pot., where I may be able to maneuver away, and it doesn't cost me 2, 4, 6 blood to try This is compared to cel/pot, where I may be able to maneuver away and it doesn't cost me 2, 4, 6 blood to try. This is compared to other combat strategies, where I still have defensive options.
Nor is being 6 capacity (5 with SomeName #1) some magical boundary. Combat decks use bigger vampires. Combat decks use smaller vampires. Combat decks use Enkidu. Combat decks use Tariq. Combat decks use Lazverinus. None of them get to charge me 5 blood to even try to Majesty, even though they're using a vampire who has passed this magical 6 capacity boundary.
Ok, no point defending obviously broken design, cheap cycleable card that effectively say "you can't maneuver and burn 2 blood, oh and +stealth at inferior IS broken. I'll redo it. (EDIT: REDONE). That said, there are still cards that bring more value, like Torn Signpost with blur or AfB with CC, pre-nerf version exceled only in combats where opponent striked/maneuvered multiple times per turn.
It was too good in former form, as it effectively always get 2 damage value at superior, sometimes even 4 or 6 which is more than disarm, one of the most blood-effective card in the game (0 for 5 - 2 for rescue, 3 for regenerating arm) and this card even synergized with disarm.
Now it's more similar to wave of lethargy, except it affect allies and don't cost blood (and isn't affecting vampires with







Sabbat.Black Hand Shakar: Lech loathe ranged weapons. Once each action, he may burn 1 blood to become Camarilla Prince of Krakow until the end of the action.
Last edit: 07 Mar 2015 18:29 by Lech.
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15 Mar 2015 07:54 #69863
by Lech

Sabbat.Black Hand Shakar: Lech loathe ranged weapons. Once each action, he may burn 1 blood to become Camarilla Prince of Krakow until the end of the action.
Replied by Lech on topic Re: [Submission] Lasombra & Sabbat cards
Updated first post with enough content to warrant double post.






Sabbat.Black Hand Shakar: Lech loathe ranged weapons. Once each action, he may burn 1 blood to become Camarilla Prince of Krakow until the end of the action.
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