file [Submission] Seasoned

23 Apr 2015 08:37 #70685 by alek
Replied by alek on topic Re: [Submission] Seasoned

Name: Reasonable Fear
Cardtype: Action Modifier
Cost: zero
Capacity: n/a
Discipline: none
Clan: none
Sect: Sabbat
Only usable after combat when the opposing minion is not ready. Place this card on the acting sabbat vampire. +2 Bleed versus that minion's methuselah. While ready, you may burn this card to redirect a bleed from your predator to your prey.

crazy overpowered

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23 Apr 2015 14:03 - 23 Apr 2015 14:04 #70691 by Azel
Replied by Azel on topic Re: [Submission] Seasoned
Doubtful. Dominate & Presence exist. As does Parity Shift, Archon, & Camarilla Segregation.
Last edit: 23 Apr 2015 14:04 by Azel.

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23 Apr 2015 15:17 #70692 by jamesatzephyr

Doubtful. Dominate & Presence exist.


The two for the price of one aspect to it is really quite nasty, though. Backrush your predator, torporizing one of their vampires - and get a free bleed bounce into the process, for not much setup. So they can't bleed you with the vampire you've just biffed, and you'll very likely get to redirect a bleed later too. And - in the rediret option, as opposed to the bleed option - it references your "predator", so if you contribute to back-ousting your current predator, the benefit carries over to your new predator.

Losing minions via combat and other minion deprivation strategies (e.g. Banishment, Sensory Deprivation) can be extremely un-fun in the first place, because you don't get to try to do stuff, because your minion is dead. This could make it that bit less fun on top.

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23 Apr 2015 16:08 #70693 by chrisn101
Replied by chrisn101 on topic Re: [Submission] Seasoned
Just my lunchtime musings... I know it's not quite what was originally suggested, but I like the idea of the Sabbat jobbing non-Sabbat and gaining something useful out of it, so....

Seasoned: new player in town
Requires a ready Sabbat vampire.
(d) Enter combat with a non-Sabbat vampire of the same or older capacity controlled by another Methuselah. If the opposing combatant is not ready at the end of the combat, place this card on the acting vampire. This vampire has +1 bleed. A vampire may only have one Seasoned card.

Seasoned: intelligence
Requires a ready Sabbat vampire.
(d) Enter combat with a non-Sabbat vampire of the same or older capacity controlled by another Methuselah. If the opposing combatant is not ready at the end of the combat, place this card on the acting vampire. When you are being bled, this vampire may tap and burn this card. Choose another Methuselah other than the acting minion's controller. The acting minion is now bleeding the chosen Methuselah. A vampire may only have one Seasoned card.

Seasoned: artifice
Requires a ready Sabbat vampire.
(d) Enter combat with a non-Sabbat vampire of the same or older capacity controlled by another Methuselah. If the opposing combatant is not ready at the end of the combat, place this card on the acting vampire. This vampire has +1 intercept. A vampire may only have one Seasoned card.

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