By the Kindred for the Kindred

a-e wrote:

Serazahr wrote:

Yes, but you can, according to the current text, play several of them during a single bleed.

You would need "Only one By the Kindred, For the Kindred may be played during an action."

Even if only one could be played during an action, you could combine it with other bleed reduction cards to make it burn blood.

A bleeds for 1
B (primogen) plays By the Kindred for the Kindred and chooses X as zero, then plays Telepathic Counter at superior to reduce bleed to -1
B does not burn any pool and A burns 1 blood

Actually I don't mind it dovetailing with other reduce. Reduce is generally under-used.

Yeah a one-per-action isn't a huge impost on it, and would probably mean I'd ditch the blood cost.

Flavor-wise "By the kindred/people, for the kindred/people" is a pretty modern phrase. I would expect that in an Anarch card, not Camarilla.

It's also a good idea to simplify card mechanics in a complex game like VtES. Even doing simple math for a single card is asking a lot.

I would suggest the following:

"Clan Rebuff"
Reaction.
Requires a Primogen.
Reduce a bleed against you by X where X is the number of ready non-unique ready vampires you control of the same clan as this reacting vampire. If the bleed is reduced to 0 or less you may tap X vampires of this reacting vampires clan you control to deal X damage to the acting minion.

Okay my idea is complicated too.

Your's would torpor minions, mine makes them hunt. That is quite a difference...

Juggernaut1981 wrote:

Your's would torpor minions, mine makes them hunt. That is quite a difference...

That is not the point.