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28 Jan 2019 15:36 - 28 Jan 2019 18:26 #93176
by LivesByProxy
Gangrel. Noddist. Camarilla. Once each turn, LivesByProxy may burn 1 blood to lose Protean
until the end of the turn and gain your choice of superior Auspex
, Obfuscate
, or Potence
for the current action.
Submission: Larceny (A fixed / playable Cat Burglary for !Gangrel and Assamites) was created by LivesByProxy
Larceny
+1 stealth Action
Steal 1 pool (for this vampire's controller). If successful, this vampire can burn 1 blood to unlock.
Steal 1 pool (for this vampire's controller). This vampire may immediately play an action modifier card to gain stealth, even if stealth is not yet needed.
Cat Burglary is pretty bad. I like the idea of it though. So what about something like this? Enables City Gangrel and Assamites to pseudo-bleed their prey, while also getting a pool to help their survivability. Is somewhat akin to Kindred Spirits, but because it isn't a bleed action, you can bleed, unlock, steal 1 pool (or steal 1 pool, unlock, bleed.) Is good with The Unnamed, but because it isn't a bleed, keeps him in check, right?
Alternate names: Heist? Swindle? Was surprised to find a lack of 'steal 1 pool' actions.
+1 stealth Action







Cat Burglary is pretty bad. I like the idea of it though. So what about something like this? Enables City Gangrel and Assamites to pseudo-bleed their prey, while also getting a pool to help their survivability. Is somewhat akin to Kindred Spirits, but because it isn't a bleed action, you can bleed, unlock, steal 1 pool (or steal 1 pool, unlock, bleed.) Is good with The Unnamed, but because it isn't a bleed, keeps him in check, right?










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28 Jan 2019 17:55 #93180
by jblacey
Replied by jblacey on topic Submission: Larceny (A fixed / playable Cat Burglary for !Gangrel and Assamites)
You could make it a straight up trifle with
and then
with an interesting bonus effect. I would recommend it not being at stealth though, then you could make the card really good at superior and bump it up to 2 pool.
Something like this...
Larceny

action steal 1 pool (for this vampire's controller). If successful, unlock this vampire.
As above, but 2 pool.




Something like this...
Larceny






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28 Jan 2019 18:04 - 28 Jan 2019 18:11 #93181
by Lech
Stealing 2 pool is about equal to bleed for 4. It also can't be bounced. I like those clans, but it's bit too op.
What about:
Larceny

action steal 1 pool (for this vampire's controller). If successful, unlock this vampire.
+2 stealth action. Put this card in play and unlock this vampire, any vampire you control with
may
action steal 1 pool and unlock if successful. Burn this card when the action is successful.
Which is basically
enter combat.

Sabbat.Black Hand Shakar: Lech loathe ranged weapons. Once each action, he may burn 1 blood to become Camarilla Prince of Krakow until the end of the action.
Replied by Lech on topic Submission: Larceny (A fixed / playable Cat Burglary for !Gangrel and Assamites)
You could make it a straight up trifle with
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and then
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with an interesting bonus effect. I would recommend it not being at stealth though, then you could make the card really good at superior and bump it up to 2 pool.
Something like this...
Larceny
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action steal 1 pool (for this vampire's controller). If successful, unlock this vampire.
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As above, but 2 pool.
Stealing 2 pool is about equal to bleed for 4. It also can't be bounced. I like those clans, but it's bit too op.
What about:
Larceny









Which is basically







Sabbat.Black Hand Shakar: Lech loathe ranged weapons. Once each action, he may burn 1 blood to become Camarilla Prince of Krakow until the end of the action.
Last edit: 28 Jan 2019 18:11 by Lech.
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28 Jan 2019 18:15 #93184
by jblacey
Is it?
Would you say it is on par with Conditioning if it is announced with the action or 2 player Parity Shift? Because the way I see it isn't stealth, requires two Superior Disciplines which are not normally associated with high bleed or politics.
I could see an argument for making it cost a blood.
Replied by jblacey on topic Submission: Larceny (A fixed / playable Cat Burglary for !Gangrel and Assamites)
You could make it a straight up trifle with
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and then
![]()
with an interesting bonus effect. I would recommend it not being at stealth though, then you could make the card really good at superior and bump it up to 2 pool.
Something like this...
Larceny
![]()
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action steal 1 pool (for this vampire's controller). If successful, unlock this vampire.
![]()
As above, but 2 pool.
Stealing 2 pool is about equal to bleed for 4. It also can't be bounced. I like those clans, but it's bit too op.
Is it?
Would you say it is on par with Conditioning if it is announced with the action or 2 player Parity Shift? Because the way I see it isn't stealth, requires two Superior Disciplines which are not normally associated with high bleed or politics.
I could see an argument for making it cost a blood.
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28 Jan 2019 18:53 #93185
by Kraus
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Replied by Kraus on topic Submission: Larceny (A fixed / playable Cat Burglary for !Gangrel and Assamites)
I for sure would not give a free unlock with this, if at all. Mistress Fanchon first stealing 2 pool and then bleeding for 8? Nope, nope.
This seems like it was thought of as a midcap or horde tool. They do not need unlocks that much, so it isn't so crucial to give them away. With offensive actions it's a can of worms. It works for tool-up and defensive actions much better.
Jblacey's version should have both 1
cost as well as 1
for the unlock. To be fair I enjoyed the op version more. It might be less powerful, but there's a world of difference between stealing 1 and stealing 2 pool.
That sounds so obvious it hurts...
But stealing 2 pool is a really powerful effect. And no, don't compare it to Parity Shift, since it's a whole different card with a whole set of different restrictions.
This seems like it was thought of as a midcap or horde tool. They do not need unlocks that much, so it isn't so crucial to give them away. With offensive actions it's a can of worms. It works for tool-up and defensive actions much better.
Jblacey's version should have both 1


That sounds so obvious it hurts...

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28 Jan 2019 18:54 #93186
by Lech
Not only you can bleed afterwards, but also it can't be bounced. Let's see, what disciplines unnamed have?

Sabbat.Black Hand Shakar: Lech loathe ranged weapons. Once each action, he may burn 1 blood to become Camarilla Prince of Krakow until the end of the action.
Replied by Lech on topic Submission: Larceny (A fixed / playable Cat Burglary for !Gangrel and Assamites)
You could make it a straight up trifle with
![]()
and then
![]()
with an interesting bonus effect. I would recommend it not being at stealth though, then you could make the card really good at superior and bump it up to 2 pool.
Something like this...
Larceny
![]()
![]()
action steal 1 pool (for this vampire's controller). If successful, unlock this vampire.
![]()
As above, but 2 pool.
Stealing 2 pool is about equal to bleed for 4. It also can't be bounced. I like those clans, but it's bit too op.
Is it?
Would you say it is on par with Conditioning if it is announced with the action or 2 player Parity Shift? Because the way I see it isn't stealth, requires two Superior Disciplines which are not normally associated with high bleed or politics.
I could see an argument for making it cost a blood.
Not only you can bleed afterwards, but also it can't be bounced. Let's see, what disciplines unnamed have?






Sabbat.Black Hand Shakar: Lech loathe ranged weapons. Once each action, he may burn 1 blood to become Camarilla Prince of Krakow until the end of the action.
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