Koschei's Egg (with concept art!)
22 Oct 2019 16:16 #97501
by LivesByProxy
Gangrel. Noddist. Camarilla. Once each turn, LivesByProxy may burn 1 blood to lose Protean until the end of the turn and gain your choice of superior Auspex , Obfuscate , or Potence for the current action.
Koschei's Egg (with concept art!) was created by LivesByProxy
Card idea to give clans without bleed-bounce better survival.
Koschei's Egg
Cost 1 Blood
+1 stealth Action Move 1 blood from your pool to Koschei's Egg. While Koschei's Egg has at least 1 blood on it, you cannot be ousted from the game. Any minion may burn Koschei's Egg as a action at -1 stealth; minions with Auspex get +1 stealth on that action (+2 stealth instead if they have .)
Reaction Play when you would burn the last of your pool. Lock this reacting minion; you cannot be ousted this turn. Effects that would reduce your pool to less than 1 reduce it exactly 1 instead.
https://imgur.com/a/ETCaSFk
Koschei's Egg
Cost 1 Blood
+1 stealth Action Move 1 blood from your pool to Koschei's Egg. While Koschei's Egg has at least 1 blood on it, you cannot be ousted from the game. Any minion may burn Koschei's Egg as a action at -1 stealth; minions with Auspex get +1 stealth on that action (+2 stealth instead if they have .)
Reaction Play when you would burn the last of your pool. Lock this reacting minion; you cannot be ousted this turn. Effects that would reduce your pool to less than 1 reduce it exactly 1 instead.
https://imgur.com/a/ETCaSFk
Gangrel. Noddist. Camarilla. Once each turn, LivesByProxy may burn 1 blood to lose Protean until the end of the turn and gain your choice of superior Auspex , Obfuscate , or Potence for the current action.
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22 Oct 2019 21:10 - 22 Oct 2019 21:11 #97513
by narpassword
Replied by narpassword on topic Koschei's Egg (with concept art!)
un-oustable and removal is -1s?
id rather something more balanced like:
No requirements
No Cost
strike: remove 30 pool from your opponent
or what about:
Master: the game ends and spin a bottle, the player the bottle points to is considered the winner.
id rather something more balanced like:
No requirements
No Cost
strike: remove 30 pool from your opponent
or what about:
Master: the game ends and spin a bottle, the player the bottle points to is considered the winner.
Last edit: 22 Oct 2019 21:11 by narpassword.
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23 Oct 2019 00:47 #97514
by LivesByProxy
Gangrel. Noddist. Camarilla. Once each turn, LivesByProxy may burn 1 blood to lose Protean until the end of the turn and gain your choice of superior Auspex , Obfuscate , or Potence for the current action.
Replied by LivesByProxy on topic Koschei's Egg (with concept art!)
The game would look a little different if more cards were printed to the Govern / Deflection standard, yes.
Let's go over the common arguments people use when defending X established card or part of the game:
[1] The table will balance things accordingly.
[2] Build better decks!
But really, consider:
The inferior version isn't impossible to deal with. It could probably stand to be unique, for flavor purposes and such, and the superior has a steep opportunity cost (only cycles once you're about to die.) And the -1 stealth action is for flavor: Koschei's Egg was hidden, thus hard to find. That's why vamps with Auspex can find it easier. This is something of a skill-check like what we'd see in the RPG, and something VTES could use more of IMO. It creates interesting board states: makes vamps with out-of-clan disciplines or odd discipline spreads suddenly more interesting just by virtue of a card checking for vamps with that discipline. VTES has kind of done this thing before with a handful of Celerity cards checking to see if the other minion has Celerity.
That said, I do wish Cryptic Mission would let you burn any blood counter off any card in play. That would make CM better.
Let's go over the common arguments people use when defending X established card or part of the game:
[1] The table will balance things accordingly.
[2] Build better decks!
But really, consider:
The inferior version isn't impossible to deal with. It could probably stand to be unique, for flavor purposes and such, and the superior has a steep opportunity cost (only cycles once you're about to die.) And the -1 stealth action is for flavor: Koschei's Egg was hidden, thus hard to find. That's why vamps with Auspex can find it easier. This is something of a skill-check like what we'd see in the RPG, and something VTES could use more of IMO. It creates interesting board states: makes vamps with out-of-clan disciplines or odd discipline spreads suddenly more interesting just by virtue of a card checking for vamps with that discipline. VTES has kind of done this thing before with a handful of Celerity cards checking to see if the other minion has Celerity.
That said, I do wish Cryptic Mission would let you burn any blood counter off any card in play. That would make CM better.
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23 Oct 2019 04:01 #97515
by Mewcat
Replied by Mewcat on topic Koschei's Egg (with concept art!)
The superior effect is pretty crazy.
Maybe an action and u out into play and burn to fail a bleed vs u.
Maybe an action and u out into play and burn to fail a bleed vs u.
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25 Oct 2019 08:23 - 25 Oct 2019 08:23 #97564
by Exposer
NC Belarus
Replied by Exposer on topic Koschei's Egg (with concept art!)
Does Koschei exist in World of Darkness?
What clan? What creature? Just curious
What clan? What creature? Just curious
NC Belarus
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25 Oct 2019 09:55 #97570
by jamesatzephyr
Perennial problem: cards that are easily playable by mainstream vampires with mainstream disciplines will not only be played by decks that are struggling. And it turns out that Obfuscate is played in a whole bunch of good decks already - so you might turn a rickety tier 3 or tier 2 sort of deck into something more playable, but you also boost a bunch of existing top-tier decks.
There are ways around this, but this isn't doing any of them.
Replied by jamesatzephyr on topic Koschei's Egg (with concept art!)
Card idea to give clans without bleed-bounce better survival.
Perennial problem: cards that are easily playable by mainstream vampires with mainstream disciplines will not only be played by decks that are struggling. And it turns out that Obfuscate is played in a whole bunch of good decks already - so you might turn a rickety tier 3 or tier 2 sort of deck into something more playable, but you also boost a bunch of existing top-tier decks.
There are ways around this, but this isn't doing any of them.
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