file Army of Pigeons

18 Nov 2019 12:36 #97863 by Sambomb
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...similar to marijava thugge...


My goal is to make playable card, not more wallpaper.

Is there any limit on bleeds of 6 for any dork with :DOM: ?
Why should we limit much slower ousting abilities?


Because bleed have a lot of mechanics that can stop it :
Block
Bleed bounce
Bleed reduce
Archon Investigation
Protected resources
etc..

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18 Nov 2019 13:00 #97864 by Lech
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Why not make it retainer, or ally then? Limiting to amount of Ani vampires is to stop making it spam card (10+ copies), and make it splash card.

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18 Nov 2019 13:24 #97865 by elotar
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Because bleed have a lot of mechanics that can stop it :
Block
Bleed bounce
Bleed reduce
Archon Investigation
Protected resources
etc..


You can block Armies too (it's 0-stealth actions for a reason). ;)
Bounce and other specific bleed defense exists, but that's why my actions are much slower, weaker and got own specific defense (removal of counters with (D) actions).

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18 Nov 2019 13:28 #97866 by elotar
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Why not make it retainer, or ally then? Limiting to amount of Ani vampires is to stop making it spam card (10+ copies), and make it splash card.


10+ is not a spam card, it's a deck defying card like other main ones like Govern, Kindred Spirits, KRC, Deep song ets.

So actually the goal is to make it usable in large quantities.

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18 Nov 2019 14:21 #97868 by Sambomb
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Both methods ( Block the action/Remove it ) have a high cost.
Block make you enter combat that you can avoid with bleed bounce/reduce.
Even if you want to block, many cards have bleed restrictions that this card dont have ( Forgotten Labyrinth, Chamelleon Colors, Morphean Blow, Mirror Image, etc... ).

Spend a action for each card is not viable with high cost vampires without untap mechanisms.

Restrict it to one per minion reduce the chance of abuse. You must remember that there is already some cards of passive oust like Smiling Jack, Anarch Revolt, Constant Revolution, Army of rats, enable a player to play 3/4 copies of this cards per turn will be more broken than it already is.

A 5+ capacity clause could be necessary to avoid a winnie ANI to be more broken then it already is.

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18 Nov 2019 14:43 #97870 by elotar
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... to avoid a winnie ANI to be more broken then it already is.


Ask and I deliver:

Errata
Carrion Crows
Type: Combat
Requires: Animalism
Only usable before range is chosen.
[ani] The opposing minion takes 1R damage each round of combat during strike resolution. A vampire can play only one Carrion Crows each combat.
[ANI] As above, but for 2R damage. and gain 1 :blood: each time you successfully deal damage with Carrion Crows.

Being best combat discipline is stupid for :ani:

Actually there was an opinion, that it's not needed as by now :ANI: combat decks are already not good enough.

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