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						04 Mar 2012 16:46				#24705
		by johannes
	
	
		
			
				
I am not sure why you feel that we should have an answer in the drawer for this. Jeff had plenty of lead time to prepare his statement, we need to take equal time to prepare an answer. Even worse, we are not one but a group of people so consensus needs to be reached first. Also in more than 10 years of being a volunteer for VTES I never had to deal with such a situation, never had anyone trusted with anything decided to take it for public blaming.
					
	
	
			
			 		
													
		
	
				Replied by johannes on topic Re: Important facts about the first V:EKN set in development			
			Still no word from the V:EKN about all this? I guess my hope for having new, interesting playable cards from a player community based demand are all but dashed. Only official word so far is that Jeff is a jerk for violating an NDA and even mentioning anything about a seemingly broken process. Maybe he was right.
I am not sure why you feel that we should have an answer in the drawer for this. Jeff had plenty of lead time to prepare his statement, we need to take equal time to prepare an answer. Even worse, we are not one but a group of people so consensus needs to be reached first. Also in more than 10 years of being a volunteer for VTES I never had to deal with such a situation, never had anyone trusted with anything decided to take it for public blaming.
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						04 Mar 2012 19:09		 -  04 Mar 2012 19:12		#24738
		by Joscha
	
	
		
			
					
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				Replied by Joscha on topic Re: Important facts about the first V:EKN set in development			
			
				I don't want to be a bootlicker, don't get me wrong, guys. But I think it is fair to give the accused people enough time to get things clear. I'd rather wait some days more than to read a hasted answer with the possibility to hurt the process of cardmaking or turn things into a flamewar. Those disputes are delicate things which demand a slow hand and caution. Good to know people don't act spiteful.
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						06 Mar 2012 05:25				#24925
		by BernieTime
	
	
		
			
	
			
			 		
													
		
				Replied by BernieTime on topic Re: Important facts about the first V:EKN set in development			
			
				The wanting of answers immediately is an unfortunate side effect of information access given to us by the internet.  I applaud the idea of developing new cards for events, but personally think the idea of PDF distribution was a bad idea from concept, and apparently into execution.
If you can't come up with physical media, then there's really no point.
					If you can't come up with physical media, then there's really no point.
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						06 Mar 2012 07:37				#24960
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				Replied by Satrapa on topic Re: Important facts about the first V:EKN set in development			
			
				It is a mater of reputation and respect to let people know when they can expect the answer. Just give us some deadline when we should expect the answer (chose it even in a way where you have more time than you think you need).
IC is not a monolite (by reason it cannot be). If you agree as a majority over single case you can answer as majority with signaling minority opinion.
Go trough the statement point by point and it should go ok.
					IC is not a monolite (by reason it cannot be). If you agree as a majority over single case you can answer as majority with signaling minority opinion.
Go trough the statement point by point and it should go ok.
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						06 Mar 2012 07:57				#24961
		by jhattara
	
	
		
			
					
					
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				Replied by jhattara on topic Re: Important facts about the first V:EKN set in development			
			
				Here is the Inner Circle's Open Letter to Jeff Kuta www.vekn.net/index.php/forum/5-generic-vtes-discussion/24814-open-letter-to-jeff-kuta-from-the-ic			
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						06 Mar 2012 08:19				#24969
		by Lönkka
	
	
		
			
				
Stop trolling please.
							
					
					
					
	
	
			 		
													
		
	
				Replied by Lönkka on topic Re: Important facts about the first V:EKN set in development			
			Did any of the points Jeff made have anything to do with the didtribution method of the upcoming set?personally think the idea of PDF distribution was a bad idea from concept, and apparently into execution.
Stop trolling please.
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