The final round of playtesting is underway!

Izaak wrote:

And finally, it needs to be noted that you can distinguish these "double" cards from the outside, but this is not considered a problem or in any way advantageous.

Except for the fact that a)it isn't true if you are using fully-opaque sleeves, b)if it is, you need to learn to use a scissors better, and c)if you are trying to notice such things, or have set your deck up to do so, perhaps you need to be DQed from the tournament?

Randy wrote:

The other one is also pretty damn nice.

Who made that awesome picture?

That was done by Christel Espenkrona of Sweden. Galleries of her diverse artistic talents can be found here:

espenkrona.blogspot.com/
foxycharlie.deviantart.com/gallery/

Many thanks to her!

KevinM wrote:

Izaak wrote:

And finally, it needs to be noted that you can distinguish these "double" cards from the outside, but this is not considered a problem or in any way advantageous.

Except for the fact that a)it isn't true if you are using fully-opaque sleeves, b)if it is, you need to learn to use a scissors better, and c)if you are trying to notice such things, or have set your deck up to do so, perhaps you need to be DQed from the tournament?

I tend to disagree on all of your counts, KevM. It's actually the thickness of the sleeve that contains the extra sheet of paper that can give its location in the deck away. Tried and tested it. Yes, I know that seems weird, since paper is not very thick and all, but still...

Nothing to do with handling scissors (though I'd prefer to use some kind of knife and a ruler to cut out the cards, just to be sure).

And how are you going to prove I actually am "trying to notice" the cards? They're just there, in the deck, leaving just enough extra space between it and the card on top or below of it to be visible. It's not like I am going to try to shuffle them to the top (or bottom) of a stack of cards; fact remains, in some cases, they can be visible.

Good thing there's the opportunity (or obligation?) to cut ones deck right before the start of a game, right?

No need to DQ people then (all in all it seems a bit silly to DQ people from tournaments of a 'dead' game; better try and keep all the playerrs we still have).

The same thing already happens with bent cards.

Angel74 wrote:

KevinM wrote:

Izaak wrote:

And finally, it needs to be noted that you can distinguish these "double" cards from the outside, but this is not considered a problem or in any way advantageous.

Except for the fact that a)it isn't true if you are using fully-opaque sleeves, b)if it is, you need to learn to use a scissors better, and c)if you are trying to notice such things, or have set your deck up to do so, perhaps you need to be DQed from the tournament?

I tend to disagree on all of your counts, KevM. It's actually the thickness of the sleeve that contains the extra sheet of paper that can give its location in the deck away.

Right, we agree. As I said, you are trying to notice such things. If you weren't, how did you know where in the deck the card was? fr.ex. I don't look at my deck during the game, I look at the other players and their minions and my minions and my cards in-hand.

If you cannot stop looking at the order of the cards in your deck and need a box to cover your deck so it's not visible to you -- or some better sleeves -- I'm sure a judge can furnish you with such an object. If I were you, I'd ask so that no one could accuse me of cheating.

So some people may predict that, maybe, the next card on top of his deck will be from the PDF expansion.
Wow. The drama.
I'm expecting you not to see it as potential cheating. But rather see it as an opportunity for a lot of Yu-Gi-Oh style topdecking action !