New Bloodlines set in development!
11 Apr 2016 00:29 #76360
by BenPeal
As I said in the original post, "We may make cards for other clans as space permits."
The non-scarce Bloodlines clans need 2-3 crypt cards in Group 6. Because of our production limitations, we're focussing on Blood Brothers, Garygoyles, Harbingers, Samedi, and Salubri antitribu. If we have space to include other clans, then we hope to address Group 6 issues for other Bloodlines clans.
"But what about Ahrimanes?"
We're focussing on Blood Brothers, Garygoyles, Harbingers, Samedi, and Salubri antitribu.
"But what about Baali?"
We're focussing on Blood Brothers, Garygoyles, Harbingers, Samedi, and Salubri antitribu.
"But what about Daughters of Cacophony?"
We're focussing on Blood Brothers, Garygoyles, Harbingers, Samedi, and Salubri antitribu.
"But what about Kiasyd?"
We're focussing on Blood Brothers, Garygoyles, Harbingers, Samedi, and Salubri antitribu.
"But what about Nagaraja?"
We're focussing on Blood Brothers, Garygoyles, Harbingers, Samedi, and Salubri antitribu.
"But what about Salubri?"
We're focussing on Blood Brothers, Garygoyles, Harbingers, Samedi, and Salubri antitribu.
"But what about True Brujah?"
We're focussing on Blood Brothers, Garygoyles, Harbingers, Samedi, and Salubri antitribu.
Replied by BenPeal on topic New Bloodlines set in development!
Will you try ti fill up the G6 for the clans not in your list? Ahrimanes g5-6 lack a vamp or 2, I think its the same for Kiasyd. They got one extra with Winterlich thou.
As I said in the original post, "We may make cards for other clans as space permits."
The non-scarce Bloodlines clans need 2-3 crypt cards in Group 6. Because of our production limitations, we're focussing on Blood Brothers, Garygoyles, Harbingers, Samedi, and Salubri antitribu. If we have space to include other clans, then we hope to address Group 6 issues for other Bloodlines clans.
"But what about Ahrimanes?"
We're focussing on Blood Brothers, Garygoyles, Harbingers, Samedi, and Salubri antitribu.
"But what about Baali?"
We're focussing on Blood Brothers, Garygoyles, Harbingers, Samedi, and Salubri antitribu.
"But what about Daughters of Cacophony?"
We're focussing on Blood Brothers, Garygoyles, Harbingers, Samedi, and Salubri antitribu.
"But what about Kiasyd?"
We're focussing on Blood Brothers, Garygoyles, Harbingers, Samedi, and Salubri antitribu.
"But what about Nagaraja?"
We're focussing on Blood Brothers, Garygoyles, Harbingers, Samedi, and Salubri antitribu.
"But what about Salubri?"
We're focussing on Blood Brothers, Garygoyles, Harbingers, Samedi, and Salubri antitribu.
"But what about True Brujah?"
We're focussing on Blood Brothers, Garygoyles, Harbingers, Samedi, and Salubri antitribu.
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11 Apr 2016 01:11 #76362
by brettscho
Check out my VTES blog: Gaming with BS
I also host a google doc which separates the TWDA into clans . That means I track how often clans win, which crypt groups get used, and how many people attend events. You can access all of that info here:
Replied by brettscho on topic New Bloodlines set in development!
Exciting to see a Bloodlines set (although I still feel that the poor Sabbat have the shortest stick - can't we get a few more vampires in their group 5 before the bloodlines get a full group 6?). I'm just sad that this set will have very little impact for new players (Bloodlines, Legacies of Blood and Heirs to the Blood are impossible to find). But I suppose that's the nature of the beast. Plus you've got to make your core players happy sometimes, too!
As to why some bloodlines like the Baali aren't being included, if you look at all the bloodline decks in TWDA from 2008 until the present, you'll notice that each clan has the following number of victories (I've left off the scarce clans for the moment):
33 Baali
27 Ahrimanes
28 Kiasyd
9 D. of Cacophony
7 Salubri Antitribu
7 Samedi
6 Gargoyle
6 Harbingers of Skulls
3 Blood Brothers
It's clear from the numbers above that Baali, Ahrimanes, and Kisayd are in a category all their own. They win dramatically more than any other bloodline, and giving them more toys just seems to be a waste. The designers are clearly interested (rightly so, I'd say) in helping the weakest bloodlines, which as you can see are the five that they've decided to focus on. Daughters are the only clan that is kind of left in a strange spot - they don't win much more than the other clans, but they haven't been included. I can only speculate that they've been dropped due to space concerns / interest of the designers / other reasons.
Excited to see what's coming!
As to why some bloodlines like the Baali aren't being included, if you look at all the bloodline decks in TWDA from 2008 until the present, you'll notice that each clan has the following number of victories (I've left off the scarce clans for the moment):
33 Baali
27 Ahrimanes
28 Kiasyd
9 D. of Cacophony
7 Salubri Antitribu
7 Samedi
6 Gargoyle
6 Harbingers of Skulls
3 Blood Brothers
It's clear from the numbers above that Baali, Ahrimanes, and Kisayd are in a category all their own. They win dramatically more than any other bloodline, and giving them more toys just seems to be a waste. The designers are clearly interested (rightly so, I'd say) in helping the weakest bloodlines, which as you can see are the five that they've decided to focus on. Daughters are the only clan that is kind of left in a strange spot - they don't win much more than the other clans, but they haven't been included. I can only speculate that they've been dropped due to space concerns / interest of the designers / other reasons.
Excited to see what's coming!
Check out my VTES blog: Gaming with BS
I also host a google doc which separates the TWDA into clans . That means I track how often clans win, which crypt groups get used, and how many people attend events. You can access all of that info here:
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11 Apr 2016 07:49 #76363
by Rémi
I am Rémi Cavaillé (), Barcelona (Spain). I was the Prince of Lyon (France) a long time ago around 2003
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Replied by Rémi on topic New Bloodlines set in development!
Dear all,
Thanks in advance and good luck for the Bloodline project.
Best Regards,
Rémi.
As this great idea to continue thinking in new cards has nothing to do with Paradox&Co, I assume that VEKN may have changed its mind about making change on the "official tournament rules". Is there any chances that VEKN reconsider its position about using proxies too?The design of this set has nothing to do with anything Paradox/White Wolf
Thanks in advance and good luck for the Bloodline project.
Best Regards,
Rémi.
I am Rémi Cavaillé (), Barcelona (Spain). I was the Prince of Lyon (France) a long time ago around 2003
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11 Apr 2016 10:44 #76364
by Bloodartist
Yes, it is understandable and worthy of support. I just wish these PDF sets made a bigger impact on my own deckbuilding. So far cards from these sets that find their way to my decks have been few and far between.
A heretic is a man who sees with his own eyes.
—Gotthold Ephraim Lessing
Replied by Bloodartist on topic New Bloodlines set in development!
It's clear from the numbers above that Baali, Ahrimanes, and Kisayd are in a category all their own. They win dramatically more than any other bloodline, and giving them more toys just seems to be a waste. The designers are clearly interested (rightly so, I'd say) in helping the weakest bloodlines, which as you can see are the five that they've decided to focus on.
Yes, it is understandable and worthy of support. I just wish these PDF sets made a bigger impact on my own deckbuilding. So far cards from these sets that find their way to my decks have been few and far between.

A heretic is a man who sees with his own eyes.
—Gotthold Ephraim Lessing
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11 Apr 2016 12:19 - 11 Apr 2016 12:21 #76367
by alek
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It's great that you are planning to continue to add new cards to vtes. Although, in my opinion, planned scope of next set is too narrow. This will cause that most players won't be interested in it.
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11 Apr 2016 13:01 #76368
by BenPeal
Please find us more artists.
Replied by BenPeal on topic New Bloodlines set in development!
It's great that you are planning to continue to add new cards to vtes. Although, in my opinion, planned scope of next set is too narrow. This will cause that most players won't be interested in it.
Please find us more artists.

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