Suggestion for change to qualifier rules/status
10 May 2012 19:37 #29962
by KevinM
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Suggestion for change to qualifier rules/status was created by KevinM
Given that VTES is stagnant and/or in decline,
Given that the "If you win a tournament, then you qualify" rules has been well-received,
Given that the bookkeeping required is incredibly minimal and already being done, essentially,
I would like to suggest that, for 2012, we change the qualifier rule from:
"If you win a tournament, then you qualify (for that calendar year)"
to
"If you win a tournament or are a finalist in two tournaments, then you qualify (for that calendar year)"
I believe that this would continue to have the effect of forcing some level of competence in order to attend a continental championship, as well as (theoretically) increasing tournament attendance.
{Note that I do not wish to remove or change the existence or status of qualifier tournaments, as I believe keeping a "premier event" track to be a boon to VTES.}
Given that the "If you win a tournament, then you qualify" rules has been well-received,
Given that the bookkeeping required is incredibly minimal and already being done, essentially,
I would like to suggest that, for 2012, we change the qualifier rule from:
"If you win a tournament, then you qualify (for that calendar year)"
to
"If you win a tournament or are a finalist in two tournaments, then you qualify (for that calendar year)"
I believe that this would continue to have the effect of forcing some level of competence in order to attend a continental championship, as well as (theoretically) increasing tournament attendance.
{Note that I do not wish to remove or change the existence or status of qualifier tournaments, as I believe keeping a "premier event" track to be a boon to VTES.}
Kevin M., Prince of Las Vegas
"Know your enemy and know yourself; in one-thousand battles
you shall never be in peril." -- Sun Tzu, *The Art of War*
"Contentment...Complacency...Catastrophe!" -- Joseph Chevalier
Please visit VTESville daily! vtesville.myminicity.com/
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13 May 2012 00:39 #30109
by Juggernaut1981




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Replied by Juggernaut1981 on topic Re: Suggestion for change to qualifier rules/status
I don't think its a bad idea.
I do like that winning any 10+ tournament gets you qualification for the following year and so I've been planning to run at least 4 of my own events which would potentially allow others to qualify.
I do like that winning any 10+ tournament gets you qualification for the following year and so I've been planning to run at least 4 of my own events which would potentially allow others to qualify.





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13 May 2012 08:03 #30121
by Pascal Bertrand
Replied by Pascal Bertrand on topic Re: Suggestion for change to qualifier rules/status
"Two times" means you need to check twice.
I would be happier with "If you have a GW, you qualify". It's simple, clean, fair.
The issue I currently have with it is: does it change round3 ?
I would be happier with "If you have a GW, you qualify". It's simple, clean, fair.
The issue I currently have with it is: does it change round3 ?
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13 May 2012 11:47 #30136
by vtesocrates
Replied by vtesocrates on topic Re: Suggestion for change to qualifier rules/status
Are there a lot of players who are failing to qualify? Is there a problem here that needs solving?
If so, making all finalists qualify would probably do the trick. Does that make the bar too low? Maybe some sort of statement of intent is in order. How exclusive should this club be?
If so, making all finalists qualify would probably do the trick. Does that make the bar too low? Maybe some sort of statement of intent is in order. How exclusive should this club be?
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13 May 2012 18:25 #30160
by Lönkka
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Replied by Lönkka on topic Re: Suggestion for change to qualifier rules/status
Well said!Are there a lot of players who are failing to qualify? Is there a problem here that needs solving?
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13 May 2012 20:15 - 13 May 2012 20:17 #30163
by KevinM
"Get a GW and you qualify" is too low a requirement, because people could play a S+B deck just to guarantee they get 1GW, and then they could play improperly afterwards, since the rest of the tournament "doesn't matter". I don't see this behavior at qualifier tournaments, so while it *may not happen* I don't see a reason to take any chances.
Kevin M., Prince of Las Vegas
"Know your enemy and know yourself; in one-thousand battles
you shall never be in peril." -- Sun Tzu, *The Art of War*
"Contentment...Complacency...Catastrophe!" -- Joseph Chevalier
Please visit VTESville daily! vtesville.myminicity.com/
Facebook: www.facebook.com/groups/129744447064017
Replied by KevinM on topic Re: Suggestion for change to qualifier rules/status
The "problem" I see and the benefits which I believe would result were outlined in my OP.Are there a lot of players who are failing to qualify? Is there a problem here that needs solving?
"Two times" means you need to check twice. I would be happier with "If you have a GW, you qualify". It's simple, clean, fair. The issue I currently have with it is: does it change round3?
"All finalists qualify" is too low a requirement, because of the quantity of small tournament that are now being run, which would essentially make the USA's qualifier system "top 50%"....making all finalists qualify would probably do the trick. Does that make the bar too low? Maybe some sort of statement of intent is in order. How exclusive should this club be?
"Get a GW and you qualify" is too low a requirement, because people could play a S+B deck just to guarantee they get 1GW, and then they could play improperly afterwards, since the rest of the tournament "doesn't matter". I don't see this behavior at qualifier tournaments, so while it *may not happen* I don't see a reason to take any chances.
Kevin M., Prince of Las Vegas
"Know your enemy and know yourself; in one-thousand battles
you shall never be in peril." -- Sun Tzu, *The Art of War*
"Contentment...Complacency...Catastrophe!" -- Joseph Chevalier
Please visit VTESville daily! vtesville.myminicity.com/
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Last edit: 13 May 2012 20:17 by KevinM.
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